Interesting concept for a new design?

[D2Maine]

try a search for "blue boat", we had a thread on this very design concept about 1 year ago. So, its very much something we are interested in.

so this begs the question when will the plan be out?

i know i know but i had to ask.

[RDT]

Here is another similar concept. Available 18 to 21 feet.
http://www.wyliecat.com/models/wylie_18.html

[rjezuit]

Looks like a modified version of a 60's tri-hull or cathedral hull. Used to see a lot of those around here, but they give a real punishment in a good chop. Nice and stable at rest though. Rick

[trango]

Try a search for "blue boat", we had a thread on this very design concept about 1 year ago. So, its very much something we are interested in.

Great! I have some problems to find the thread - maybe someone can post an internal link?

Here is another similar concept. Available 18 to 21 feet.
http://www.wyliecat.com/models/wylie_18.html

Very interesting and looks like a similar approach! Much prettier boat also! I could live with such a boat!

If there's an genuine interest in the design concept I can try and dig some more information from Swedish sites. It will be possible to try the boat in early december but unfortunately I will not be able to attend since it's an 8 hour drive to the test site.

I think the key that distinguish this design from other flat-bottom skiffs or bi/tri hulls it that they claim a very good ability in choppy waters. I do not know for sure, but I'm quite convinced that the boat have a V-hull - the other designs have a poor reputation here in Sweden and it would therefore be difficult to convince the market.

[trango]

Scraps of information can be found at different places. This description appears in slightly different forms at several sites - hopefully it is correct.

"A combination of a classical shape and new ideas. Length 24 foot and narrow at the waterline. Low and sharp bow to for an easy ride also in high sea. A system consisting of an ballast system stabilizes the boat while still. Integrated tabs and an air lubricated tunnel at the stern. 0.4 liters (approx 1/10 gallon)/ Nm with Honda 60 hp"

[trango]

Scraps of information can be found at different places. This description appears in slightly different forms at several sites - hopefully it is correct.

"A combination of a classical shape and new ideas. Length 24 foot and narrow at the waterline. Low and sharp bow to for an easy ride also in high sea. A system consisting of an ballast system stabilizes the boat while still. Integrated tabs and an air lubricated tunnel at the stern. 0.4 liters (approx 1/10 gallon)/ Nm with Honda 60 hp"

[trango]

Scraps of information can be found at different places. This description appears in slightly different forms at several sites - hopefully it is correct.

"A combination of a classical shape and new ideas. Length 24 foot and narrow at the waterline. Low and sharp bow to for an easy ride also in high sea. A system consisting of an ballast system stabilizes the boat while still. Integrated tabs and an air lubricated tunnel at the stern. 0.4 liters (approx 1/10 gallon)/ Nm with Honda 60 hp"

[D2Maine]

they were discussing a concept around this design.

http://www.biekerboats.com/Bieker_Boats/25_Footer.html

the boat was in pro boat builder

[jacquesmm]

Scraps of information can be found at different places. This description appears in slightly different forms at several sites - hopefully it is correct.

"A combination of a classical shape and new ideas. Length 24 foot and narrow at the waterline.

Like our Pangas.

Low and sharp bow to for an easy ride also in high sea.

That sharp bow is a fad. A boat should have a sharp entry there but that type of bow can be dangerous at high speed. This was discussed in some IBEX seminars, it will induce bow steering. The boat runs smoothly at moderate speeds but the bow can dig in which can be dangerous.
This is not a wave piercing shape, it's just a blunt bow.
It has some advantages however: cheaper marina rates because you pay by the foot and maybe staying under a certain max. length for regulations and taxes. This is very important in Europe.
I could fake a blunt bow if necessary.

A system consisting of an ballast system stabilizes the boat while still.

? I though of that for the FL26 but not for the same reasons.
This boat is light and narrow. She must roll like crazy unless ballasted. That is a serious complication, I prefer to keep it simple.

Integrated tabs and an air lubricated tunnel at the stern. 0.4 liters (approx 1/10 gallon)/ Nm with Honda 60 hp"

Our Pangas and the FL26 are also very fuel efficient.
I find that vented tunnel way too complicated for the small benefit it may (not certain) offer.

The Bleu Boat is not an abandoned project. It will show up as a finished design some day.

[Guest]

Does the manufacturer of that boat in the original post provide bags / Grouch Marx glasses to wear over your head to conceal ones' identity when riding in that ugly arse boat?