It pays to get your hardware in as you build

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It pays to get your hardware in as you build

Post by nathan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:01 am

I received my grabrail the other day. Btw beautiful grabrail! :D But it’s 18” wide instead of 16” so the backing plates midship aren’t wide enough. As per plans the stringers are 18” apart. I just added some sy pine to make it wide enough. I’ll just over drill, fill and put it down with screws and sealant.
If anybody sees a problem with my plan please let me know.
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Re: It pays to get your hardware in as you build

Post by nathan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:03 am

Btw I’m building a sk14

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Post by Dougster » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:54 am

I'd already laid my sole when I got the same grab rail, but my cleats were the same and I did just what you plan. It's rock solid.

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Post by fallguy1000 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:08 am

Looks like the stringers are 18" o.c.

The rail bases are narrower than the stringers; so you need to sister onto them. If that plate is 3/4"; that is good.

If you overbore and fill; I'd be nervous about screw holding ability. I haven't used overbores with screws; so my knowledge is limited here. I am only familiar with overboring for bolts. I would prefer to drill into wood at just under the minor and seal it from above well. Corrections welcome. Epoxy and cabosil vs wood for holding? Maybe I am wrong.
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Post by nathan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:31 am

Dougster, I looked over how you did your mounting. I'm getting a lot of info from your threads. Thanks

Fallguy, good point, maybe I'll just overbore 1/4" deep or so and let the wood under it hold the screws. Or not over think it and just screws and 5200.
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Post by jacquesmm » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:07 pm

fallguy1000 wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:08 am
Looks like the stringers are 18" o.c.

The rail bases are narrower than the stringers; so you need to sister onto them. If that plate is 3/4"; that is good.

If you overbore and fill; I'd be nervous about screw holding ability. I haven't used overbores with screws; so my knowledge is limited here. I am only familiar with overboring for bolts. I would prefer to drill into wood at just under the minor and seal it from above well. Corrections welcome. Epoxy and cabosil vs wood for holding? Maybe I am wrong.
Correct. Sister them to be certain or install a thick backing plate under the sole and use toggle bolts.
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Post by fallguy1000 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:06 pm

I think the bigger question is whether to hole the stringer and if so, how to avoid rot if ingress.

He would not be able to toggle @ the stringers.
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Post by jacquesmm » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:13 pm

For lag bolts, you go through the usual routine: drill oversize, fill with epoxy and milled fibers and bolt after cure.
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Post by fallguy1000 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:16 pm

Thanks Jacques. The milled fiber is the ticket!
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Re: It pays to get your hardware in as you build

Post by nathan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:19 pm

Thanks y'all.
None of the bolt holes fall right on the stringers and I have a little bag of milled fiber.
Might be able to do four toggle bolts one on each flange and the rest screws.

Does anybody have a good source for 1/4" ss toggle bolts?

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