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FREE 17 MAKO

Post by DAYTRIP » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:02 pm

Joel,

Wanted to follow-up on our conversation yesterday. I have a 17 Mako available if someone would like to take it as a project. I demo'd out the floor and interior already. Needs all new stringers. I just picked up another project so this one is not going to happen. I have the title so all is good to register it as a Mako. I think it is a 71 but don't remember. It has the tank but no console or anything else.

Obviously I would hope that anyone who took this would buy the materials from you guys. There are some photos in the gallary but none of the outside. I will take a couple. I am in North Palm Beach, FL.

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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by tech_support » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:06 pm

After you called, I had a change of heart :help: ......


If there is not someone who wants to rebuild her now, I will take it off your hands. :)

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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by TomW » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:33 pm

DayTrip would love to take it off your hands also, but am leary of the cracked stringers and fiberglass underneath those points. :doh: Hope Shine can restore it to the beauty those boats are capable of. Loved the older Mako's, they were also built to withstand just about anything. Don't know why those stringers cracked liked that and that is what makes me leary of the boat.
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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by wegcagle » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:26 pm

What's to be leary of? Not only is it a free boat, but he's already done a HUGE amount of the destruction work. I personally think this is a incredibly kind gesture 8) If I was back in GA, I'd be on the first interstate down there :D

DayTrip, are you documenting the other rebuild? We love good boat porn around here. I also hope Joel picks this up and does her justice. Great hull 8)

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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by tech_support » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:44 pm

wegcagle wrote:What's to be leary of? l
fatigued glass

with delaminated stringers, the bottom flexes too much and the fiberglass looses a lot of its ultimate strength. fatigued polyester FRP can loose a majority of it ultimate breaking strength from flexing (imagine the paper clip bending back and forth) Whomever rebuilds a boat with broken stringers needs to make sure the hull is not cracked. There is no way to know how much the glass is fatigued without send a sample of the hull to a composites lab for a test. At a minimum you would want to rebuild with smaller panel spacing than original - to be safe.

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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by TomW » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:14 pm

Exactly Shine and making a 2000 mile round trip to check it out just doesn't make sense to me at this point since you are right near there. :D The fiberglass may be fine or maybe fatiqued with the broken stringers, but until your up close and comfortable you can't tell.
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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by majorgator » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:39 pm

Whomever rebuilds a boat with broken stringers needs to make sure the hull is not cracked. There is no way to know how much the glass is fatigued without send a sample of the hull to a composites lab for a test. At a minimum you would want to rebuild with smaller panel spacing than original - to be safe.
So, just out of curiosity Joel, what would be the best way for someone to fix the hull if it shows too much fatigue? Would you lay a sheet of 1708 (or similar) over the hull inside and out? Or do you just cut it up and throw it on the burn pile :wink:

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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by wegcagle » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:41 pm

(imagine the paper clip bending back and forth)
Nice analogy. Now I get it :D
I guess I always just thought of it as an empty ice cream cone just waiting for the goods :lol:

If anyone can get this baby back to her glory days it would be you Joel. Look forward to watching.

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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by tech_support » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:25 pm

majorgator wrote:So, just out of curiosity Joel, what would be the best way for someone to fix the hull if it shows too much fatigue? Would you lay a sheet of 1708 (or similar) over the hull inside and out? Or do you just cut it up and throw it on the burn pile :wink: seth
thats right, either lay in new glass and decrease panel span (flexing) or scrap it. Each one is different, so you just have to look and see :) There is no being sure though, even with something like my seacraft. Unless you embedded sensors throughout the hull, There is not a way to measure stress cycles and how much the glass deflected in each cycle. If you knew that, then you could estimate the fatigue and ultimate strength loss. I attended a seminar on this some years ago and its covered in a few compose books we have in the office

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Re: FREE 17 MAKO

Post by TomW » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:48 pm

It's a big decision when the stringers have cracked on a parrallel line. :) Like Shine I took a seminar many years ago. He is probably more current than I am. :wink: If the stringers cracked as a result of the hull bottom being damaged then that is probably where the toss the boat comes in as the damage will continue to be extended over time :cry: . If the stringers were poorly designed and the cracks are from the inside out then there may be a chance that they may be repairable. 8)

The early Mako's were made with a heavy fiberglass skin so it is possible that the damaged stinger did not affect the hull.
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