Sintes 21 Rebuild

Questions about boat repairs with our resins and fiberglass: hull patches, transoms and stringers, foam, rot etc.
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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by Fuzz » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:27 pm

cape man wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:53 pm
just a quick google search and looky looky what I found.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/p ... Ai3I8P8HAQ

In Russian they call it Без перевода, which is "hidden toilet".

And then there's this for anyone who can't stay in the boat!

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All way below the price of a fugly cabin!
You might find it funny but I keep a suit just like that on the boat for every passenger.



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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by Fuzz » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:34 pm

cape man wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:56 pm
But if you're sure you need a cabin, here's a possible design suggestion... 8) 8)

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Okay...I'll stop. As soon as you deliver some pictures of that boat!
That right there is what I am afraid of happening. Will try to avoid it at all costs.

I do not mind the ribbing at all :D If I did not want you folks input I would not be asking for it.
Here is a picture just to keep the wolves at bay. I have not done much the past couple of days, been a little under the weather.
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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by Fuzz » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:53 am

Aripeka Angler wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:09 pm
You don't need a windlass to pull the anchor.

25 lb anchor, 30 feet of 3/8" chain, 250' of rode, no problem.

You just gotta invite a couple of stout friends to go fishing with you :lol:
Does this mean you and your son will be pulling the anchor this summer :P

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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by Eric1 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:47 am

Thanks for the boat porn! You have really come a long way with this rebuild and she's looking great. Thank again for your input on casters. I left them off as I'm vertically challenged as the kids say. It would be nice to roll her outside for a proper wash down. That's a must before primer or paint too.

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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by fallguy1000 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:53 am

Center consoles are overrated for certain places. What is the real reason for center console vs enclosed helm? The center console is generally and simply more open, at least that is what I see. You can cast off the foredeck, run the sides, etc. You can't run cabin heater in vinyl. So, while it might look pretty, for an Alaskan boat that Fuzz might get his Mrs. into; he probably needs to enclose it. If he were down in FL, different story, but up there when it is 40-50F on the morning; an enclosure keeps the coffee warm.

Sorry Fuzz, don't mean to be a dream killer. But do you see many center consoles up there? It wouldn't be my first choice. We don't even see them much on the Great Lakes. Guys troll with cabins on Superior, or fish out of open boats cuz they don't have a cabin boat.

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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by cracked_ribs » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:54 pm

I would tend to agree with the above re: centre consoles.

I think of CC boats as extremely specialized instruments; the sportbikes of the boat world. The question is rarely "is there any reason not to use this as my general purpose boat" and frequently "do you match the specific requirements that this machine is suited for?"

I'm much further south on the west coast than Alaska...but even here, CC boats are really rare. They do get used for specific applications and I grew up on open boats myself because I am descended from a long line of people who are inexplicably indifferent to the cold, but now I would only have one as a second boat, and only if I was primarily interested in fishing.

Since my wife is usually on the boat with me, it's not really a practical configuration. Besides which I generally launch out of a river and the bar crossing is such that without an enclosed bow, I'd have a boat full of water half the time. Scuppers are great and all but they're not instant and I'm not super excited about having to put everything in lashed down dry bags just to keep it intact.

Anyway I guess the point I'm trying to make is that CC boats get a ton of press, but I think that's because the internet is dominated by Florida boating culture. Further north, I don't think they do what most people need. But then if you have multiple boats that's less of a concern. I wouldn't own a GSXR1000 as my only bike if I lived in Dawson City, Yukon...but if I already had a R1100GS, I might buy one as a summer toy.

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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by Fuzz » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:34 am

Cracked ribs and Fall guy thanks for the input. Both of you are correct in your thinking, I really need to be able to get out of the weather at times. I have run an open whaler for a few years and there has been more than one trip that I thought hypothermia was going to set in.
The problem is Capeman is also correct in that the boat was born to be a centre console and putting a cabin on it might make it look like crap. :doh: I am still flipping back and forth on this one. For now there is a bunch of stuff that I can do while I am making up my mind.

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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by cape_fisherman » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:31 am

Why not compromise, go with a center console, and build a doghouse? I'm not a doghouse type of guy, but I see their benefits in the proper climates.

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Re: Sintes 21 Rebuild

Post by fallguy1000 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:56 pm

Take a picture of the boat from the front at a good angle, print it out, and just start some sketches on paper first.

The CC is not a boat for cold climates. These FL and SC guys have never experienced the morning run at 39 degrees. Alaska's average high temperature doesn't hit 70F all year. That is like the low temp for FL. I am only in the middle ground here in MN, but we rarely see CCs here on any big water. The salmon fishing on the Great Lakes are typically May and June, where lows are 40s and highs are 80, but morning runs are still cold and damp. Add rain and you are done fishing without a cabin. Only the hardest guys go fishing in the colder weather in open boats. I'm one of them, but it isn't something I'd like to do if I'm 75.

Miami's average temperature is the lowest in January at 60F. Anchorage average temperature is the lowest at 10F in January. The temperature swing is literally about 50 degrees on the low and 32 on the high.

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