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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by flyfishingmonk » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:30 am

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WOW! Great work!

What kind of drill press are you using and why did you choose it? I like power tools and I have to start building my inventory slowly but with the right ones. I only like to buy them once if I can help it. :lol:
Hi BB,

If you are building a shop, the two power tools that could basically build a whole boat are the hand drill and the jig saw. I kid you not. Almost 95% of the work is with these two tools or can be achieved by these two tools and a long t-square. Everything else just helps with the other 5%. These two you probably already have. Every year or so for the last 15 years I have tried to get one nice tool, either a large power tool or a nice hand tool. Only the bandsaw was a used tool.

As for the drill press, I have a Delta. I picked it up at Lowes along with a Delta jointer, after working them down to $350 for the pair. I figure the deal was worth about $700+ as they were both floor models. I then sold the jointer since I really don't use one and almost covered my cost. So it was just about free. Maybe some day if I build cabinets or something I will pick up another jointer.

Here are a few brands I like, and in the order I like them. Maybe the list is helpful if you are looking for additional tools.

For large power tools: Powermatic (table saw), Robert Sorby (lathe), JessEm (router table w/Portercable 3.25), Jet (bandsaw), Delta (drill press), Delta (vac system). I picked up a slide for my table saw that is made by JessEm but I really don't have room in the garage to install it. It was such a good deal I could not pass it up. Hopefully when we move again I will have room for the slide.

I saw the vac system in your shed. It's perfect for the job! I have a similar Ridgid, but older. Those are perfect for boat building.

Most of the fine cutting tools are Bosch, and the more rough stuff is the Ridgid (drills, sawzall). Some Porter-Cable, I recently picked up a Makita hand planer for working on the boat, because it had really good reviews. I like reviews, and I try to avoid making a decision off of just the best deal. I also like Milwaukee but don't own any. I have had a few Hilit's in the past they are amazing (hammer drill, hand drill, lasers).

For power hand tools, I own Bosch, Porter Cable, Ridgid, Dewalt and a few more that I can't recall. I got rid of most of my old Dewalt, because it just gave up the ghost. Mostly battery powered tools. I imagine the newer generation of Dewalt are great.

Some brands really excel in one area (i.e. Dewalt with miter saws) and others in another (Porter-Cable 3.25 fixed base router motor). So try to avoid brand allegiance, but select the best tool for the job. Even consider Harbor Freight if it is a tool you will only use maybe 3 times in your life, or if you know the task will destroy the tool.

Hope this helps!

Casey
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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by flyfishingmonk » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:36 am

willg wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:28 am
cvincent wrote:
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Excellent craftsmanship Casey! You phantom will be one of a kind.
I agree completely. Your creativity and craftsmanship are very impressive. I really enjoy your updates.

And I bet it floats, too ...
Thanks Will. Encouraging words help a person press onward!
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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by BB Sig » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:40 pm

Thanks for the advice! 8O I wasn't expecting that amount of advice...

I've already got a lot of good powered handtools (drills/planer/sawzall/jigsaw/biscuit joiner...) a used Rigid Planer and a 12" Rigid miter saw ($100) on off demo. I recently (last year) bought a Grizzly G0175P. This was sort of a compromise as I bought a hybrid but made sure it was 220v capable. I am not a professional but knew I didn't want a contractor saw.

I am looking more towards the other larger equipment such as a floor standing drill press. It takes up more room but I hate buying something that is limiting when I need it. All the compromises I have made "for the time being" have been permanent ones because "they mostly work." I would rather make do without until I can get the right tool for the long haul. Buy right and buy once is my goal but sometimes I just can't wait. :lol:

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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by flyfishingmonk » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:08 pm

BB Sig wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:40 pm
Thanks for the advice! 8O I wasn't expecting that amount of advice...

I've already got a lot of good powered handtools (drills/planer/sawzall/jigsaw/biscuit joiner...) a used Rigid Planer and a 12" Rigid miter saw ($100) on off demo. I recently (last year) bought a Grizzly G0175P. This was sort of a compromise as I bought a hybrid but made sure it was 220v capable. I am not a professional but knew I didn't want a contractor saw.

I am looking more towards the other larger equipment such as a floor standing drill press. It takes up more room but I hate buying something that is limiting when I need it. All the compromises I have made "for the time being" have been permanent ones because "they mostly work." I would rather make do without until I can get the right tool for the long haul. Buy right and buy once is my goal but sometimes I just can't wait. :lol:
I like it! I figured the long response may also help other readers.

I used to have the drill press in the corner, and it fits well there since they are tall and not wide or deep. On larger pieces of wood I was drilling a hole in I would walk the machine out a foot or so. Worked well.

Casey
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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by flyfishingmonk » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:51 pm

Doing a little brainstorming on the cockpit drain. =)

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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by TomW1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:24 pm

Casey as always your work is impeccable, you will have the best looking PH18 ever built on here. That drain looks awesome. As a hint since it is plastic both Krylon and Rust-Oleum have primers for plastic that allow you to paint over them with another paint. Rust-Oleum Automotive Plastic primer would probably work well with our boat paints, but as with any new process I would test it first.
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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by flyfishingmonk » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:44 pm

TomW1 wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:24 pm
Casey as always your work is impeccable, you will have the best looking PH18 ever built on here. That drain looks awesome. As a hint since it is plastic both Krylon and Rust-Oleum have primers for plastic that allow you to paint over them with another paint. Rust-Oleum Automotive Plastic primer would probably work well with our boat paints, but as with any new process I would test it first.
Thank you for the compliment! I will have to check out this plastic primer. I had never even considered a primer for plastic. Makes sense!

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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by willg » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:54 pm

Casey, that drain would definitely allow a lot of water to pass but do you think you need that capacity? And it might never happen but I'd also worry about something important slipping through those slots. Just a thought...

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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by flyfishingmonk » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:01 pm

willg wrote:
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Casey, that drain would definitely allow a lot of water to pass but do you think you need that capacity? And it might never happen but I'd also worry about something important slipping through those slots. Just a thought...
Maybe so, like a favorite hand tied fly or something! I am thinking of cutting it just shy of 24 inches, and having it rest between the two center stringers. The drain cover would come off pretty easily, being held down with just a few screws. Under that I am planning to have a simple tray that collects the water, with a 1.5" drain fitting in the center to chase the water toward the bilge.

At least that is as far out as my brainstorming has gone.

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Re: PH18 Build in North Dallas

Post by willg » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:50 pm

OK, I understand those plans. As always, you've been thinking!

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