ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by glossieblack » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:57 am

cape man wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:45 am
It sucks when humans are more dangerous than the Capes...
Eloquently succinct and true.

Regrettably, it's no longer safe to circumnavigate the world as skipper of one's own small ship.

Not because of the immense challenges of the world's oceans, which small ship circumnavigators have always faced with a mixture of profound respect and excited anticipation.

Rather because of the dull throb of the genuine threat of terrorism-motivated pirates taking one hostage, sometimes for years, regardless of one's ability to pay millions as a ransom in the face of execution threats.

What a profound loss to those of us who dreamed off, let alone intended to, circumnavigate this incredible planet we are blessed to share with the majesty of the natural world. :cry:
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by Browndog » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:21 am

Glossie,

Some people do the Loop in multiple years, leaving their boat for a stretch and then coming back to it. But generally speaking, it can be done at a fairly leisurely pace over a year. If you assume 20 miles of travel a day over 300 days, that gives you 6000 miles of travel with 65 days of extra time for sight seeing etc. The reality is that there will be some longer days of travel mainly due to distances between anchorages or stopping points and probably more days of sightseeing. Even averaging 6-8 knots per hour, there would be many days of get up, have breakfast and then travel a few hours and stop again. The coastal barrier islands from Louisiana all around the Gulf and up the East coast to New Jersey and their surrounding Salt marshes are great areas for Kayaking, Fishing, Shrimping and Crabbing. An especially fertile area for sight seeing is in the Chesapeake Bay Area and all around the Great Lakes where there are lots of side trip opportunities. Weather of course could be a factor in keeping you in an anchorage for a day or two during the summer when Thunderstorms are a factor. If you decide to poke out into the Atlantic Ocean for a shorter run than in the ICW, than weather is a definite factor. The normal route of going North East in the Spring and South East in the fall has the added benefit of avoiding most of the Hurricane Season in the South East and Gulf States.

The Big Rivers have a helping current averaging anywhere from 1-3 Knots or greater depending on seasonal flow, but are generally a little less in the fall. So even with minimal propulsion to maintain headway you can cover a lot of ground on the Rivers. The problem on the lower Mississippi is that there is a stretch of almost 200 miles with no refueling facilities. Many people take the Tenn/Tom Big Bee as an alternative, because it is shorter, has more amenities and is less wild than the lower Mississippi.

Because there is not a great need for speed you see a lot of trawlers and mid size sailboats. The only problem with a sailboat is the need to lay down the mast due to some low bridges in the Great Lakes portion of the trip. For a couple, any reasonably sea worthy boat from about 21 foot to 40 foot should be more than adequate depending on your desire to have just camping accommodations or “full house” livability.

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by glossieblack » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:51 am

Many thanks Browndog for your considered and detailed response re Great Loop cruising. What a fantastic mainly sheltered water home cruising ground you guys have!

When I awoke this morning and re-read my post of last night re the threat posed by pirates in the Suez Canal region, I realised that I was relying on information that I had researched a few years ago.

In the hope that the situation has improved, today I researched the current situation. Yikes, it getting worse! The threat of being attacked by pirates has spread far beyond the southern Suez approaches.

The first map below shows what is still the premier global hotpot - the southern approaches to the Suez Canal. The second shows hotspots globally.

This is why for us, cruising in Australia and New Zealand waters, and potentially USA waters including the Great Loop, is so attractive.

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by Jaysen » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:11 am

Looking at the second map, Peter-Cs building of Death Trap makes sense. Has to outrun the pirates!

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by peter-curacao » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:18 am

Yeah Venezuelan coast can be tricky 8O

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Post by OrangeQuest » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:17 am

Jaysen wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:11 am
Looking at the second map, Peter-Cs building of Death Trap makes sense. Has to outrun the pirates!
They are going to think it is a low flying missile. :lol: my attempt at humor :lol:

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by topwater » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:19 am

Glossie check out the Great Harbor TT35 , would be pretty close to perfect for the loop.
Novi 23 finally launched !

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by peter-curacao » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:27 am

OrangeQuest wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:17 am
Jaysen wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:11 am
Looking at the second map, Peter-Cs building of Death Trap makes sense. Has to outrun the pirates!
They are going to think it is a low flying missile. :lol: my attempt at humor :lol:
Yes a RUM-139 :lol: sorry couldn't resist

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by glossieblack » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:31 am

topwater wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:19 am
Glossie check out the Great Harbor TT35 , would be pretty close to perfect for the loop.
Thanks Topwater. Yep a very strong design concept for the Great Loop, especially if trailering and outboards are among your priorities.

http://www.greatharbourtrawlers.com/tt35.html

I also really like the concept that Jacques posted for Great Looping today. Probably because it's an ST21 on steroids. :D

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=62974&p=415885#p415885

Fortunately I'm too old to be tempted to start building this baby! But I sure hope younger others do. :wink:

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by glossieblack » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:02 am

Put in a big one today. Collected the diesel engine from the freight depot, then glassed down a protective layer of 12 oz biax over the sole, with a covering layer of peel ply. Was stuffed by the end. Now recovering with a good red. :D

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