ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by glossieblack » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:50 pm

Fuzz wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:27 am
Looks real good sitting there :!: And it looks like there is room to work on things when the time comes. That is a big one to me.
The bottom of the aft face of the engine box will be hinged to the sole, so the box will swing up out of the way, giving servicing access as per the photo.
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Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:18 am
Do you have service access to oil sump? Probably you will put a pump for oil but it would be good to have access to sump plug.
Yes, there will be access to the sump plug if the sump needs to be completely drained.
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Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:50 am
Are there other hybrids like this on the waters where you are? Similar drivetrain setups?
None that I'm aware off. I wish there were, as I'm very much having to feel my way. I can't even find similar hybrid drive train setups documented on the net. I can find plenty of concept discussions, but no actual builds. I've got no doubt they are out there though. Have you run across any actual builds on the net?
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Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:58 am
WOW! That is one purdy engine!
It was nice walking into the shed this morning and seeing it in the boat rather than on the ground. :D


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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by Jaysen » Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:50 pm

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Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:50 pm
Have you run across any actual builds on the net?
Only full electrics. I'm looking to take a different approach to hybrid; all electric drive train with 1 cylinder diesel generator. That let's me use renewables for most charging but gives me range and backup when needed. Li-Po banks in the 30kw range and outfit with LED and leverage low power navionics (may make some of them).

That's the plan anyway.

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by glossieblack » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:58 pm

glossieblack wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:50 pm

[Jaysen] Have you run across any actual [hybrid diesel-electric] builds on the net?
Jaysen wrote:
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Only full electrics.
Hmmm. Strange as it may seem, perhaps this is the first DIY diesel-electric hybrid build documented on the net. :o
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Post by bateau-webmaster » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:18 am

Next step brew biodiesel!
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by glossieblack » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:04 am

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Next step brew biodiesel!
A friend who's a dentist (hence bored) brews biodiesel from cooking oil he collects from restaurants The benefit-cost is a little suspect, but at least it gets him away from a savage wife.

For recreation, I think I'll stick to sailing and boatbuilding. :wink:
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Post by bateau-webmaster » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:50 am

good point seems like a boring hobby anyway.
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by Jaysen » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:37 am

making bio-deisel is a waste (for now) as the commodity supplies needed (methanol and lye) are not readily available. That and oil is technically a controlled "waste hazard" in the US and requires permits to legally acquire and transport. Ask me how I know...

The sweet spot is to "dual tank" the motor... start up on pump fuel then switch to straight veg/waste oil once the motor is warm. All you need for this to work is good filtration post acquisition and pre injection. My only fear is that using waste oil (not veg) would add excessive pollutants to the environment.

By my calculations, 15gal veg and 2.5gal pump with wind/solar supplement should give an electric/diesel sail boat transat capabilities with fuel to spare. If I every get to a VG26+ we will see how it works out :)

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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by cape man » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:14 pm

Had friend burning oil in his diesel Mercedes. Smelled like french fries going down the road.

Michael the boat is really coming along nicely. Agree 100% with test fitting everything first, especially when you are leading the way for others...

But I caught you!
It was nice walking into the shed this morning and seeing it in the boat rather than on the ground. :D
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by glossieblack » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:34 pm

cape man wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:14 pm

But I caught you!
It was nice walking into the shed this morning and seeing it in the boat rather than on the ground. :D
I knew you had help! 8) 8) 8)
A solo operation dear Cape Man, a solo operation. :D

The boat's cradle is on wheels. So I rolled the boat to one side of the shed. Then using block and tackles hanging from the roof on the other side of the shed, I raised the engine from the floor above gunwale level. Then I rolled the boat under the engine, which I then lowered it onto the engine beds. Easy as. :D
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia

Post by Jaysen » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:52 pm

How big is the shop?

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