Bob's FS18

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Bob's FS18

Post by toadfish » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:33 am

OK, here we go. I've been working for a few months now, just incredibly slack about posting build progress, and will need to get caught. Ordered the FS18 CNC kit on Monday, March 11 and, because I had already been checking out build threads, the strong back was ready to go when it arrived only a few days later that Friday. What service . . . thanks Reid!

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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by Fuzz » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:10 pm

Hey welcome to the fun Bob :D
That floor looks too clean for boat building but that will soon change.
Strongback looks good for building on. You might need a couple of braces on the legs to keep it from racking.

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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by Reid » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:33 pm

Bob,

Welcome to the Forum! I'm confident you will get a lot of feedback as you progress thru your build, especially if you post pictures. Like Fuzz said, I would add some bracing for the legs of the strongback. I would also encourage you to add some heavy duty casters (with the ability to lock). Casters will allow you to move the boat around or outside if you choose to sand outside.
Good luck to you and I am eager to see your progress!!!
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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by Jeff » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:10 pm

Bob, Welcome to the Builders Forum!!! Glad to see you starting the FS18 build!! Again, welcome, Jeff

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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by toadfish » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:10 pm

Thanks for the welcome! Reid and Fuzz you'll be happy to see that I've made good on your suggestions in upcoming photos.

First weekend was gluing - Laminated the transom and stringers. Also got the hull panels glued with a high tech clamping system on the garage floor. Unforced error number one: Apparently a clean garage floor doesn't mean there are not unforeseen low spots, one of which was directly under one of the bottom panel puzzle joints. It will lead to future unnecessary fairing. Turns out stupid now and extra time later are strangely proportional...

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Hull panels ready to go -

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P.S. This may be a duplicate post - I think I deleted one by accident - just learning the forum ropes

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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by piperdown » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:20 pm

Welcome to the forum! :D
Off to a great start, regardless of any unforeseen leveling issues and I'll definitely be following along!
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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by Reid » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:55 pm

Bob,

Good start! No worries about the puzzle joint panels. One cured just sand them down smooth. As long as the you have the gap between the puzzle joints filled and there are not air pockets or gaps you are fine. Keep in mind, the cleaner you work now the smoother and less fairing you will do later.

One tip that will make your life easier when applying fillets and fiberglass tape:
Apply painters tape to the inside of all the seams. This will keep the fillets from pushing thru and making more sanding work for you once you flip the hull. I like to work wet on wet when I get to this point in the build. Once the hull is stitched together and you are ready for fillets, simply make really small "spot welds" with the fillets, maybe 1" wide, just enough to hold the seams together. Once those have cured, remove the stitches and clean up the spot weld fillets. Have your fiberglass tape measured out and cut to length (being sure to follow the lamination schedule). After the tape is measured and cut, roll it up and label it based on where it will go (keel, chine, etc...).
Roll out some neat epoxy (neat refers to epoxy without any fillers added) onto all the seams, making sure to cover an area where the tape will go (3" on each side of the seam). You can let this kick off and get tacky. Next, working on one seam at a time, apply the fillets to the seam. Allow the fillet to kick off but not cure (maybe 30-40 mins). At this point the fillet should still be soft as well as the neat epoxy you rolled out. Start to roll out your fiberglass tape. Work in small sections at a time (maybe 12" lengths). Roll out tape, wet it out, make sure there are no air bubbles (use the laminating roller), and move on down to the next section. Once that seam is done move on to the next. I would start on the keel and work outwards. You don't need to get all the seams done in one day but don't fillet the seam unless you are ready to tape the seam.
By doing this, the fillet will conform to the fiberglass really well and you won't have any air bubbles from uneven fillets. If you fillet first and let it cure you may have to go back and sand the fillets to get them to the right radius so the fiberglass lays down correctly.
I would do this on the inside as well. Doing this also gives you a chemical bond between your fillet and fiberglass tape.

Sorry if that was little long winded but I have found this save a lot of time and sanding/grinding. (I really hate sanding and grinding :wink: )

Good Luck,
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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by toadfish » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:07 pm

My last "catch up" post for today. While the second set of puzzle joints was curing, I got the jig ready to go.

Unforced error number two: In my enthusiasm to get started, I ended up making the strong back a little too short, so that if the transom knees were properly supported, frame "A" was not resting on anything. Had to extend the strong back to support the frame and the bow extension of the jig. Oops.

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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by OrangeQuest » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:59 pm

Looking good already!! FS18 is a great boat a few guys are building them now. Good luck and enjoy!

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Re: Bob's FS18

Post by Aripeka Angler » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:33 pm

Welcome aboard Bob! :D
You have got off to a nice start, I am looking forward to following along...
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