Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:52 am

Net, I don't think location will be an option. I think the question they will ask is "what did you not do correctly and where did you skimp on glass/epoxy/ply?" And if it turns out that the builder is just better at glass/resin ratio the assignment of weighted location is likely to be determined but others. I prefer to just avoid the problem altogether.

The availability issue was a pretty big surprise to everyone not in the US and UK. Those are not "majority" builder for this type of program. Don seemed surprised at the number of plans sold in the first 24h and by the distribution. That's a good thing though as it shows that he's found the sweet spot between the "self guided micro racer" and the "multi gazillion dollar budget racer". I'm aware of three other US builders and one in CA. And this is before plans are really available (several are preorder; I don't know how many are already approved for immediate start). And since hull #1 is just completing there are a number of things that everyone will be discovering in near realtime with these builds.


Visit my official Class Globe 580 build blog at https://jaysenodell.com/globe-580
Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
Class Mini 580 welcome post.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:58 am

Received notice today... hull ID 4. As if I wasn’t motivated enough to build a class compliant hull...

Plans are going digital. I still need to communicate info from builder. They should be with me shortly.

Ive asked that this thread be my official build thread as required by class requirements. I’ll be updating lost #1 with some requested info later this morning.

Not sure about moving with covid happening. We shall see.
Visit my official Class Globe 580 build blog at https://jaysenodell.com/globe-580
Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
Class Mini 580 welcome post.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by terrulian » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:53 am

All very exciting, really!
It is so unfortunate we have this virus running around to take a bit of the wind out of our sails. So be very careful about everything you touch for awhile. Don't let the stars get in your eyes, is I think the way my mother would have put it.
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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jeff » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:06 am

Nice Jaysen!!! Jeff

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:21 am

terrulian wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:53 am
All very exciting, really!
It is so unfortunate we have this virus running around to take a bit of the wind out of our sails. So be very careful about everything you touch for awhile. Don't let the stars get in your eyes, is I think the way my mother would have put it.
Well... For not it is all waiting and electronic. There are things that I can get done for a bit. The one difficulty for me is the build space. I have options but not sure I could really relocation my living quarters for a couple months. Might try moving back to the house but that's going to have it's own issues at this point.

Right now I think I'm going to see if we can start the association process for the US and do as much of that as possible.

Still... #4. That makes me smile.
Visit my official Class Globe 580 build blog at https://jaysenodell.com/globe-580
Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
Class Mini 580 welcome post.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:30 pm

Hello fellow Class Mini 580 builders! Welcome to my build of hull #4. To say I'm excited to be building an ocean going hull is kind of like saying "those of us building mini 580 like the idea of sailing".

Let's get some book keeping out of the way...
  • If your looking for build materials at good prices and with the best customer service, please contact Boat Builder Central (link up there ^). Jeff, the owner, has been super supportive and I would appreciate it if you gave him an opportunity to give you a quote.
  • If you want to contact me, please join the forum. It is free and the folks here are ready to help. Once you join the forum please use private message or the little "talking bubble" over there --> to email me.
  • I'm keeping a public google sheet detailing my products purchased, the estimated costs, the actual costs and any details about the the purchase. This sheet will evolve over time.
  • The photos in this thread are visible in my Lil Bit More photo gallery. Please do not comment on the photos in the gallery. If you have questions or comments, please make them in this thread or in PM. I do not monitor the gallery, so if you do comment there I will likely miss it.
  • Here is a post that lists links to my tips for other builders of the Mini 580. <no link yet>
  • Here is a post that lists links to my "well that didn't work" moments. <no link yet>
  • Here is a post that lists links to my "opinions on products, method, etc. <no link yet>
Let's talk about my desire to build a Mini 580....

One of my fellow BBC builders here made the following comment regarding the 2024 Global. I find his approach hilarious as well as enlightening when I look at this from someone else's perspective.
Netpackrat wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:21 pm
As I said in the other thread, it seems overly elaborate if suicide is the goal.
My response was pretty much "normal" for Jaysen...
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While not a personal goal, going out shouting “bring it!” to the deity is more my style than anything graceful or peaceful.
When you think about what we are building, why we are building, and what we want to do with the our completed builds, we are either nuts, unafraid of death or willing to embrace risks normal people can't see as acceptable. What is wrong with us?

We live in a world of constant screams that we need bigger, faster, automated, mass produced, and expensive. I've dreamed of sailing for years but until I built Lil Bit (JM V12) I had never really sailed on my own. LIl Bit was intended to get me to fishing holes and shuttle the Mrs to a sand bar with no engines. Just wind and oars. Prior to Lil Bit I loved the idea of sailing... once I was in Lil Bit... good lord I love it!

Not long after building Lil Bit my wife and I "semi relocated" to Charleston South Carolina USA. Lil Bit stays at our home and I hated not getting to sail every day. It wasn't long until I found myself on a J30 working as crew for weekly harbor and occasional offshore races. My favorite sail was when we ran a race from Charleston harbor to Hilton Head Island (near where Lil Bit stays). The seats run 12'+ and winds in the 30mph range. Not having spent much time (any) in those conditions, I found myself terribly seasick but loving every minute on the boat. As night feel and conditions worsened I asked the captain "where should I be?" He pointed to starboard push pit. I sat down, lashed myself to the rail and proceeded to check out. I remember being working up a few times and hearing "are you ok" and "we need to reef". According to the Captain I always replied with "I LOVE THIS" and then hopped to. That race sealed it for me. I love sailing.

I looked at my options Mrs and I considered a live-aboard. There are reasons we are unable to do that. I considered a J30, but no matter how "affordable" the initial purchase is, the overall cost just didn't add up. The same was true for all the pocket cruisers. Right about the time I said to a friend "I think I'm never going to find the right boat", Don McIntyre posts about Class Mini 580. A small, home built, inexpensive, ocean crosser that hits all the compromises AND he's putting together an international class for racing AROUND THE WORLD!!!

My plan is to make the 2024 global. I don't know if that is possible. I have a lot of sailing to do just to have the needed qualified hours (Lil Bit More will be were most of those hours are logged). I still have a day job so I'm likely to need some "alternate funding" if the Globe becomes possible. I'll need to lick that sea sickness thing. And I really like my wife so I need to make sure she is really OK with me heading off into the blue for weeks at a time with limited contact. But I'm game for it.

I think that's enough of me meandering. If you have questions about me, what I'm planning, how you can be involved, or just want to call me stupid feel free to PM or post on this thread.

Lets get her built!
Visit my official Class Globe 580 build blog at https://jaysenodell.com/globe-580
Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
Class Mini 580 welcome post.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by terrulian » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:41 pm

Beautiful, Jaysen.
You must have a hell of a great wife. So do I.
I'm sure you'll keep us posted and I'll be tuned in.
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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by fallguy1000 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:46 am

Good luck.

If you need any white oak. Let me know. I have some. A bit heavy likely for the build.

What is the keel made of anyhow?
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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:24 am

Thanks Tony! She has to be a saint to have stuck with me 26yr (30 if you count the not married years).

FG, the bulb is cast lead, the wing steel. They do specify oak for deck support. Waiting for the plans to arrive to determine needs. The little boat has an 8’ beam to there will be some long pieces.

On other news I will need to maintain a non-BBC blog. I’ll work with Jeff and crew to see if we can link the two to allow seamless content sharing. Wouldn’t want Fuzz to forget which site he needs to login to for a does of boat porn.

At least that will keep me busy for a few hours.
Visit my official Class Globe 580 build blog at https://jaysenodell.com/globe-580
Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
Class Mini 580 welcome post.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by fallguy1000 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:38 pm

Jaysen wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:24 am
Thanks Tony! She has to be a saint to have stuck with me 26yr (30 if you count the not married years).

FG, the bulb is cast lead, the wing steel. They do specify oak for deck support. Waiting for the plans to arrive to determine needs. The little boat has an 8’ beam to there will be some long pieces.

On other news I will need to maintain a non-BBC blog. I’ll work with Jeff and crew to see if we can link the two to allow seamless content sharing. Wouldn’t want Fuzz to forget which site he needs to login to for a does of boat porn.

At least that will keep me busy for a few hours.
I can donate some oak. I have some xtra in white and the less boat friendly red.

Just pm me. White is heavier. If you are encapsulating red; that can work to save a pound or 5.

U pay shipping is all.
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