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Refillable caling tubes

Post by eshell » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:29 pm

Made a few inches of fillet using the refillable calking tubes. It was pretty cool. I think it is something that can make a complete novice look pretty good. I think when I get a good half or even full day to really concentrate, these tubes will speed up the process greatly.

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Post by Dukydo » Fri May 09, 2008 1:52 am

Ernie

Hows it comming with the boat? Its been a few weeks. As for me it seems there is always something to get in the way of my working on the boat.

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Post by eshell » Fri May 09, 2008 2:27 pm

Hey Duke,

Going very well but a little slow. As I mentioned somewhere before, work, etc. keeps getting in the way.

I have the boat right side up and am starting to fillet/fiberglass the inside. When I say starting, I'm using the term kind of loosly. Actually I'm walking past it going to work and saying to myself "gota get started!" If I could only get a full day or even half day I could really make some headway. I probably could have made a bit of spare time and got a little further but having never made good, finished quality fillets or any fiberglassing at all, it's sitting out there as a kind of wall that I have to push through and get the first batch done. I'm sure after that my confidence will be higher and it will go a lot faster.

Anyway, thanks for asking and I'll post another update when I get some good progress behind me.

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Post by Dukydo » Mon May 19, 2008 1:13 am

Ernie,

Its been 10 days. Whats up? Got any pictures?

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Post by eshell » Tue May 20, 2008 1:13 pm

Hey Duke,
Things are moving along now. I have almost all the interior seams done but just ran out of filler for some reason. Perhaps I'm making my fillets too large. I feel they aren't but really have nothing to compare them to. Anyway, no problem, I ordered some more and will get back at it on the weekend. Actually I have enough left to work on some seat cleats so will be able to keep busy.
Slow at work this week so have quite a bit of spare time to put towards the really important things in life!
I think I'm doing quite well as far as not using too much epoxy. I put the fiberglass on a sheet of plastic, drizzel the epoxy over it, lay another piece of plastic on top then use a hard roller to roll it out. I made a simple video of this and will see if it can be uploaded to my blog.
Still haven't broken out the second gallon of resin yet so I feel there will be no problem having enough.

Will try to get a few more pics on the blog later today (would do it now but there's this thing about the grass needing cut!!)

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Post by eshell » Tue May 20, 2008 8:35 pm

As I said above, I ran out of wood fiber today, significantly earlier than I should have. I called down to the folks in Florida to ask a question regarding what size bag to order and as luck would have it, I spoke with Jacques M. He felt I may have been making my fillets too large, especially when I told him I was using a tea spoon to make the fillets.
Perhaps so but I have gone through quite a few pictures now of other examples and I really believe mine are about standard size.
The spoon actually works very well. By holding it 90 degrees to the joint, the fillet has a very small radius. As you decrease this angle, the fillet radius increases. You can really work it to get a very neat fillet.... and quickly too I may add. Between using the West System fillable caulking tubes and the spoon tool, I could probably do every seam in the boat in no time flat. (disclaimer... requires the use of assistant to keep flow of epoxy and "peanut butter " coming at proper timing). Anyway, waiting not so patiently for more wood fiber.

I just can't tell you how much fun I am having building this boat. It is going to be a major letdown the day I finish because I won't be able to go out to the workshop (garage) and build. Better think of another boat to build!!


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Post by sds » Tue May 20, 2008 9:25 pm

The build looks good eshell. Very clean work.

The caulking tubes seem like a good way to apply a filet.

A few questions: How much mix are you able to run through those at a time? Any problems with the epoxy kicking in the tube? What speed hardener are you using and at what temperature?

Sorry for all the questions. :lol: Any thoughts will be appreciated.

Keep up the good work and the blogging.

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Post by eshell » Tue May 20, 2008 10:01 pm

Thanks Scott, I appreciate the comments.

I am using the Marinepoxy with medium hardener and the pump dispensers. I try not to get too far ahead of myself so work with fairly small batches. Can’t quantify it in weight or volume but I haven’t been making my fillet batches any larger (or smaller) than 4 pumps of resin to 2 pumps of hardener. However much that makes, I have been able to run up to 3 batches through one tube without problems. Don’t know if I could have done more, that was just as far as I ever got before having to move on.
I have a digital thermometer sitting in the boat and seem to be working mostly in 60 – 65 degree temps. I never had the epoxy kick off in the tube, probably because of 1) the size of batch (used it up fast) and 2) the cool temps.

They are running around $3.50 for 2 tubes. I’ve probably used up 4 or 5 so far and 2 or 3 to go. I’ve learned a lot though so if I was to do the same boat over again and had a reliable assistant (no offense to my very supportive but mostly conveniently absent wife) I could probably cut that in half.

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Post by sds » Tue May 20, 2008 11:48 pm

Thanks Eshell.

Sounds like a good system -- if it keeps from wasting epoxy, it might pay for itself. On a cool day, with slow hardener... you could probably get alot of seam done, with one tube. 8)

If you run out, I see them at BBC here for $1.55 each:

http://boatbuildercentral.com/proddetai ... M_4805_810

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Measure Once, Cut Twice

Post by eshell » Fri May 23, 2008 9:28 pm

Just in case anyone changed the plans for their FL14 by reducing the dimensions about 3/4 of an inch all around, I've got a couple of seat tops you might have a use for. :oops:
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