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Re: FS14 Build - Pics, etc.

Post by Capt UB » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:00 pm

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Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:34 pm
So, I'm back at boat building for a short bit and am installing inside seats and stringers. I remember reading about lowering stringers btwn seats to install sole at slightly lower level. My memory is this can be done to 3"? I want lower it to 3" btwn stern seat and mid-seat (and leave full height within the mid-seat and stern seat compartment,-- but then btwn mid-seat and bow it tapers less than 3" already. Can I cut it down in this area at all?
Leave the stringers as is.

I put in a deck, no center bench and lowered the foredeck. I did beef up the rub rail, installed thick inwales and glassed inside and outside the hull fully.
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Re: FS14 Build - Pics, etc.

Post by finalfront » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:37 am

Capt UB - Looks great, but I'm leaving in mid seat and putting remote steering. I saw "Bayou.?. " reduced stringer height to 3" (75mm) and it gave him a bit more legroom - I might need this for more comfort around the steering console and behind midseat as well. Can't see how this compromises anything? I had hoped to reduce it a bit in front of midseat as well..
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Re: FS14 Build - Pics, etc.

Post by Capt UB » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:03 pm

You should ask the question in the:

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JM checks this and so does Jeff.

JM wants 3" min. on frames, not sure about stringers.
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Re: FS14 Build - Pics, etc.

Post by OrangeQuest » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:46 am

When I was wanting to put a sole in my FS14 JM stated that the stringers and the frames could be cut to 3" but not any less than 3" .
But....
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I did not keep the frames at the minimum 3". But added more frames and will have a sole. My frames are closer together than the plans call for and more of them. There is a maximum distance the frames can be apart too. Once the sole is down, the sides will get 3" ribs and a gunwale. The seams were taped with 12 oz. and inside of hull also has 12oz cloth. Still have one more frame to install once I know where the console will go.

You can see where the sole will meet the bottom of the boat at the black line. I cut the top of the stringer and lost a few inches of the taper towards the bow. There is more than 8 feet from frame A to frame E. This will be a one person utility/fishing boat and at times carry two people. WILL BE VERY HEAVY!
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Re: FS14 Build - Pics, etc.

Post by jacquesmm » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:06 pm

You can lower the stringers but the cockpit will not be self bailing anymore.
Such a small boat can not be made self bailing with crew but it can be self bailing empty at the dock. It is a good safety feature.
However, in this case, with all the reinforcements, the boat may be so heavy that it will never be self bailing.
All those reinforcements; double layers, extra stiffeners, are not necessary. They just make the boat heavier.
keep in mind that for a sandwich bottom panel, I can't specify less than 1 layer 12 oz. each side. That is fine for a PH16 or PH18 but overkill for a 14' boat.
I can't use less: I want 12 oz. outside for resistance to puncture and while I could use 6 oz. biaxial inside, we would gain very little in weight and make our life complicated by buying two different types of fabric for the bottom. Plus biaxial 45/45 in 6 oz. is special order.
That bottom is very stiff as designed.

I owned (and still own) several of my designs and always built them lighter than specified. They never broke or cracked.

From what I see in the picture above, that missing floor frame will not be a problem because the sole meets the bottom further back.
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