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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Jeff » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:29 pm

Excellent work as always Eric!!! Jeff



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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Dan_Smullen » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:10 pm

Hey, Eric. Are you inclined to build any camber into the deck so it drains to the side, or just make it level?

I’ve been wondering about what approach is best.

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by glossieblack » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:33 pm

Very nice work Eric. :D
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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Eric1 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:01 pm

Dan_Smullen wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:10 pm
Hey, Eric. Are you inclined to build any camber into the deck so it drains to the side, or just make it level?

I’ve been wondering about what approach is best.
I'm going with level.

Thanks Glossie.

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by piperdown » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:23 am

Just wondering couldn't you have kerfed the side cleats to make the bends? Then fill the kerfs with thickened epoxy and put in place?

Regardless, looking great Eric and am I thrilled to know you're moving forward on the boat!!
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Re: Eric's C21

Post by jacquesmm » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:44 am

Dan_Smullen wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:10 pm
Hey, Eric. Are you inclined to build any camber into the deck so it drains to the side, or just make it level?

I’ve been wondering about what approach is best.
The decks have camber as designed but the sole is flat. I count on the boat to move enough to drain. That's the way it is in all production boats but some lifeboats and surf boats have camber in the sole. It's rare.
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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Eric1 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:15 pm

piperdown wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:23 am
Just wondering couldn't you have kerfed the side cleats to make the bends? Then fill the kerfs with thickened epoxy and put in place?

Regardless, looking great Eric and am I thrilled to know you're moving forward on the boat!!
Yes that could have been done and I considered it. I felt this was faster and equally as good a technique.
Thanks Piperdown. :D

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by cracked_ribs » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:45 am

jacquesmm wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:44 am
Dan_Smullen wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:10 pm
Hey, Eric. Are you inclined to build any camber into the deck so it drains to the side, or just make it level?

I’ve been wondering about what approach is best.
The decks have camber as designed but the sole is flat. I count on the boat to move enough to drain. That's the way it is in all production boats but some lifeboats and surf boats have camber in the sole. It's rare.
I have also seen the reverse done: to put a very gentle lift in the corners of the sole where it meets the frames, just to prevent water from pooling in the corners. Whether it's worth doing or not I have no idea but it's an interesting concept but I think Jacques' point is well taken: the boat should ideally be either covered up on on the water and if it's either of those, the water should be leaving on its own.

I would not camber a deck in a boat with exposed frames, though: that's directing it to an area with built-in obstructions.

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Eric1 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:56 am

That is my plan for the exposed frame. An old boat of mine had that issue. Over time rot developed there. Polyester layup, not mine, factory build.

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Dan_Smullen » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:54 am

Eric1 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:56 am
That is my plan for the exposed frame. An old boat of mine had that issue. Over time rot developed there. Polyester layup, not mine, factory build.
Great points, Eric and Cracked Ribs!

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