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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Eric1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:41 pm

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Eric I am sure you went with a good choice. Your strongback/skid has to be really stiff to get away with only four castors. My shop floor is all tapered to flow water to a drain so the more casters the harder it is to keep it level and not have any twist in it.
Boat is coming along nicely. Even if it does not feel like it the fairing will end at some point :lol:
Thank You Fuzz. Our floor has to be pretty flat because of the CNC machines. I look forward to the fairing coming to an end. It's tedious, tiring work. Sometimes feels like I'll never get this boat built. :lol:



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Re: Eric's C21

Post by TomW1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:50 pm

Yea your using the wrong kind of paint. Krylon fast dry is ready in 15-20 minutes, it is lacquer based. You can't use just anything. What you are ordering is the top of the line of the guide coat materials, not sure it is worth the extra cost but it will sure do the job.
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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Eric1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:53 pm

TomW1 wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:50 pm
Yea your using the wrong kind of paint. Krylon fast dry is ready in 15-20 minutes, it is lacquer based. You can't use just anything. What you are ordering is the top of the line of the guide coat materials, not sure it is worth the extra cost but it will sure do the job.
Tom, I'll post a photo of what I bought tomorrow. I thought I had bought the right stuff. The can said "dry in 15 minutes" and it is dry to the touch that quick but it is overnight to sand. :doh:

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Fuzz » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:56 pm

For me when building a boat it goes like this. At first it seems fast because you can see progress at the end of each day. When you get to the fairing part it just drags because it is hard to see the progress. After the flip things will speed up a bunch. And then for me the final fitting out drags. But as Cracker Larry says one bite at a time and it will all be gone.

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Eric1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:06 pm

Fuzz wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:56 pm
For me when building a boat it goes like this. At first it seems fast because you can see progress at the end of each day. When you get to the fairing part it just drags because it is hard to see the progress. After the flip things will speed up a bunch. And then for me the final fitting out drags. But as Cracker Larry says one bite at a time and it will all be gone.
That makes sense. Just hard to see progress while fairing. Rigging? Don't even start with that. I'm thinking of where and how to put everything every night when I get home! So much to consider. Outboard bracket, Gas Tanks, Electronics. Hatches, chase tubes, deck layout... need I go on?

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by dbcrx » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:16 pm

I prefer the dry guide coat too. It's quick and easy to apply, gives a much fully even coat than a spray can and can be sanded straight away. Here's a link which discusses guide coats with some pick of me using graphite as a cheaper alternative - viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19140&hilit=graphit ... 10#p343128
I haven't used the 3m stuff, but have used another brand name one. It is more expensive, but is darker than the graphite. And a little goes a long way, so I wouldn't worry too much about the cost of a tub.
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Re: Eric's C21

Post by Eric1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:31 pm

dbcrx wrote:
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I prefer the dry guide coat too. It's quick and easy to apply, gives a much fully even coat than a spray can and can be sanded straight away. Here's a link which discusses guide coats with some pick of me using graphite as a cheaper alternative - viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19140&hilit=graphit ... 10#p343128
I haven't used the 3m stuff, but have used another brand name one. It is more expensive, but is darker than the graphite. And a little goes a long way, so I wouldn't worry too much about the cost of a tub.
Thanks Dave, That looks like the trick. :wink:

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by bateau-webmaster » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:33 am

I always thought graphite as a guide coat was a great idea, especially since if you drag it around it spreads further. That and it increases strength within the epoxy instead of being weaker like paint (not that you use much, but still)
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Re: Eric's C21

Post by cape_fisherman » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:39 am

GUIDE COAT

Next time you do a guide coat take some denatured alcohol and add food coloring to it. Don a pair of gloves, soak a cloth, and wipe the boat down. It's alcohol and will evaporate/dry in no time.

Go ahead and test this now on a small spot on the boat. You'll see how easy it is.

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Re: Eric's C21

Post by cape_fisherman » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:50 am

The quote below was made by a friend of mine on another fishing forum. In full disclosure, his name is Bill Schwab, and he is an owner at Lightning Yachts located at the Jarrett Bay Marine Industrial Park in Beaufort, North Carolina. Bill is...as we say...THE MAN.

"...food coloring and denatured alcohol wiped on with a rag, cleans and fills pinholes so you can spot them easily, just have to blow off the surface during sanding so any dust filling the holes doesn't hide them."

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