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Re: FS14 What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by peter-curacao » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:41 am

Capt UB Tom is only trying to help, why so harsh? and Tom imho you should leave Larry out of this, but that's just me. :wink:



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Re: FS14 What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by topwater » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:22 am

Tom how is buying one LVL 12 " long and cutting it in half going to triple the cost :?: I guess i was an idiot when i rebuilt
my jig with LVL's after setting the molds 5 times and not getting it straight and true to my liking . I would set everything with
a laser and come back the next day and it would move and this was in a temperature controlled shop . Sure i could have left
the shit lumber in the shop for two months waiting for it to stabilise but why waste that much time when all i had to do was
buy a LVL :?:
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Re: FS14 What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by Capt UB » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:32 am

topwater wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:22 am
Tom how is buying one LVL 12 " long and cutting it in half going to triple the cost :?: I guess i was an idiot when i rebuilt
my jig with LVL's after setting the molds 5 times and not getting it straight and true to my liking . I would set everything with
a laser and come back the next day and it would move and this was in a temperature controlled shop . Sure i could have left
the shit lumber in the shop for two months waiting for it to stabilise but why waste that much time when all i had to do was
buy a LVL :?:
Sorry Capt for the rant , build on :!:
I followed the Designers plans on a Strongback and Keelson, picking the best lumber locally, laying it out. Only to have both 2x4's fail during the build (open carport). I gave away the unfinished hull, do to cost of repair...
I like the cost of LVL....

This was what the designer and carpenters said to build... Why I ask so many quedtions. Bateau strongback/jig could have worked of the Spira build... If I had only asked the same questions asked here!
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Re: FS14 UPDATED What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by peter-curacao » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:20 pm

Yeah that strongback doesn't look like much, only 2 support points? that's ridiculous.
Btw no question is a dumb question so ask away :) , also you should build your boat the way you wanna build it after all it's your boat 8)

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Re: FS14 UPDATED What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by seaslug » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:14 pm

I gave you the same exact advice as Tom, just trying to be helpful and possibly save you a little time and money and you jumped all over him. Why? All we are suggesting is that a 14' boat does not require I beams for a strong back. If you disagree, just ignore the post, no need for the very nasty rant. I don't know Tom, but I do know that he spends an enormous amount of time helping other builders on the forum, and deserves an apology. Mike

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Re: FS14 UPDATED What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by Aripeka Angler » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:56 pm

Captain UB, I have two laser straight cnc saw cut plywood box beam strong backs free to a good home.
Whew, that was a helluva run on sentence. :lol:
Deland is an hour and a half from my shop. Send me an email if you want a free strongback.
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Re: FS14 UPDATED What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by cape man » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:40 am

Whew! Was hoping you would see this thread Richard. Capt UB, that's a deal you can't say no to. And it gets us past the foundation and on to real boat building. 8)
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Re: FS14 UPDATED What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by topwater » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:27 am

Mike i'll see you at the boat meet , if you want i'll more than explain myself. I won't do it on the forum.
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Re: FS14 UPDATED What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by seaslug » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:07 am

John, I was not responding to your post, but to Capt. UB's uncalled for nasty post directed at Tom. Your advice is always welcome. See you this weekend. Mike

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Re: FS14 What is the best lumber for the Jig/strongback

Post by Capt UB » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:59 am

I followed the Designers plans on a Strongback and Keelson, picking the best lumber locally, laying it out. Only to have both 2x4's fail during the build (open carport). I gave away the unfinished hull, do to cost of repair...
I like the cost of LVL....

This was what the designer and carpenters said to build... Why I ask so many quedtions. Bateau strongback/jig could have worked of the Spira build... If I had only asked the same questions asked here!

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