FS17 in Steinhatchee

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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by thb » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:13 am

I will probably try the flip next week. In the meantime I have been adding 1/4 inch thick by 1-1/2 inch wide meranti ply strips on the inside between the uprights so now the rubrail area will be stronger. Wood flour/epoxy them in place.

The 8 ft cross braces shown in Chuck H's pictures will be screwed down to the top of several uprights. These uprights are 3/8 marine ply with biaxial tape on both sides connecting sole and hull sides and then 1/4 inch ply gussets on each side. They should be strong enough for the cross braces to attach to. What do you folks think???

Once I get the boat outside of the shop, I will do the flip. Will probably leave it outside while the bottom and keel are finished, epoxy graphite applied and then painted. As this is the rainy season in North Florida, I could experience some weather delays. Will see.

The major items for this build are arriving every day. TH Micro jack plate, Baystar hyd steering. I picked up my Tohatsu 50 hp 4 stroke the other day but it was not a white one like I specified but I will keep it anyway. It came with controls and binnacle, prop, wiring harnesses, tach was short shipped. I was surprised it came with fuel/water separator and fuel primer and hose. Garmin nmea 2000 kit came but still waiting on the garmin 6.4cv color depth sounder/ gps. It sure is fun buying crap. :D

I think I will also sharpen the rear 6 ft of the chines and the transom. I think this improves the hydrodynamic efficiency. It worked well on my FS14 anyway.

Chuck H, How did you attach the middle 4 by 4 cross brace or was it a 3 by 3???

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Tom in Steinhatchee



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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by Chuck H » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:53 pm

Tom,

I'm pretty sure the middle rung is 2 layers of 2x4 at the ends. I think I attached the end rungs and then slid the middle one around until it matched the shear. I screwed long deck screws through the rub rail but attaching it to the gunwale supports would be less invasive.

I kept up with my build thread for about a month and then turned into a slacker, I haven't even taken pictures in a long time.

My wife could figure out a way to have a brand new white Tohatsu shipped overnight and get to keep the grey one. It's her mutant superpower.

Good luck with the flip.

Chuck

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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by thb » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:14 am

Chuck H,

Thanks for the reply. I was also thinking of doubling up 2x4's for the middle cross brace.

Got some glass work done on Sunday. Laid some 6 inch biax tape on the inside seams where the hull side panels join. Previous owner just glassed both sides of the panels without any biax tape at the joints. I think it will be stronger with biax tape. Also last bay near motor well side boxes had no glass on sides or floor so I got that done. All inside surfaces now have cloth and epoxy coating.

It was kind of a pain getting at the forward panel joints as this area was where the fuel tank is and it had been foam filled. I cut away the foam on both sides to get at the full length of the side panel joints and down several more inches along the bottom panels. I was concerned about these joints as on the left hand forward joint the area was bubbled out at the panel seam. Maybe the foam behind it had an effect. Who knows, but I did not like it. Fix it now while I can get at it.

They probably did not use biax tape due to increased amount of fairing required at the joints. After seeing this I am a very strong believer in using biax tape at all hull panel joints. I will try to attach some photos.

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Tom In Steinhatchee

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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by thb » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:00 am

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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by thb » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:03 am

more photos.
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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by pee wee » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:19 am

You're doing a great job, looks like you're doing it right.

One thing that has been discussed some here before is whether foaming tanks in place is a good idea or not, I believe the concern was that an aluminum tank foamed in place will fail due to corrosion, and it was better to space it up on some neoprene strips and keep the foam out of that compartment.
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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by thb » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:36 pm

Hank,

Thank you for the info on foaming in alum fuel tanks. I totally understand the logic of not doing it. However, in this case the previous owner of this boat, Robert Harms, did this when he worked at Bateau in Vero. To undo it is not worth the effort IMHO.

Having worked as a field service rep at Boeing for the majority of my professional career, I saw first hand what moisture does to aluminum. Not pretty and expensive to repair.

I appreciate the link and agree with Jacques totally on this matter.

I got the boat flipped this morning and it went very well. Set the boat back down upside down with the ladder arrangement resting on the cradle. Thank you Chuck H for the ladder idea. Pictures will follow.

Tom in Steinhatchee

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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by thb » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:56 pm

Here are some pictures of the flip.
Will add them in small batches.


pic of the ladder rig
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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by thb » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:03 pm

some more pics of the flip.
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start to lift opposite side
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Re: FS17 in Steinhatchee

Post by thb » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:07 pm

final set of photos as I know you guys love boat porn
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TOWMBO had good idea to set the boat back on the cradle to allow moving it around on the ground.
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Progress thanks for all the ideas folks.

Tom in Steinhatchee

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