Classic 21 Express

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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by changeat44 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:43 am

Thanks everyone for helping me out.
I had doubts, not anymore.

I will look at a cheap vendor for quality birch ply.

Today I created a small order by Mr. Epoxy, I ordered:

3000 grams 2:1 Mr. Boat homebrand Epoxy,

5 square meters 25 grams woven fabric to substitute the 150 grams woven fabric as specified in the original plans,

5 square meters 50 grams woven fabric to substitute the 240 grams woven fabric and the biaxial 300 grams as specified in the original plans,

100 grams Aerosil,
100 grams micro-balloons,
125 grams cotton fibers,
10 mixing cups,
one box gloves, 50 pair Nitrile (the blue ones)

Total cost including 10% first order discount and shipping in The Netherlands: 113,58 euro (there goes my icecream-money for the next three months).

Daniel



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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by blueflood » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:53 am

Total cost ? Wait until you build the real thing: "there goes my anything money for the next many years" :lol:

Enjoy your model build, Daniel and don't forget to post pix. Any questions, ask away !
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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by changeat44 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:15 am

blueflood wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:53 am
Total cost ? Wait until you build the real thing: "there goes my anything money for the next many years" :lol:

Enjoy your model build, Daniel and don't forget to post pix. Any questions, ask away !
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I'm already starting to learn to appreciate simple water ice cubes, it will be worth it! :D

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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by changeat44 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:07 am

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Nice to meet you guys!

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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by changeat44 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:20 am

Just delivered.

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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by blueflood » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:57 am

mmm beer :D

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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by changeat44 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:14 pm

blueflood wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:57 am
mmm beer :D
A beer a day............. :wink:
I thought it was a good size for reference :D

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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by Matt Gent » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:54 pm

I would agree to build the hull and work out the cabin once you get a feel for the space, alternatively you could sketch or model to scale and make a cardboard mockup to get a feel for it. I think anyone taking on a project of this scale should get exactly the aesthetics and layout that they wish.

But I'm not sure about picking the C21 hull and a 20hp engine. This would make for barely above displacing speeds, which I would guess it could hit with 10hp. The C21 has a moderate V planing hull and the structure to go with it; if you only want to go say 12mph there are hull forms and structures more suited to that.

I could see starting with a 20hp if it was available or for budget reasons, with plans to upgrade to say 100hp later. But if you want to just go slow, you can do it more efficiently in a hull designed for it. Likely something longer, narrower, and with a more peaky buoyancy curve & LCB further forward. With the C21 at 10kt it would be dragging along a planing transom for no reason.

Among Bateau plans the FL26 or LB22 might be a better fit; other designers also offer semi-planing hull forms.

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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by jacquesmm » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:04 pm

Matt Gent wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:54 pm

Among Bateau plans the FL26 or LB22 might be a better fit; other designers also offer semi-planing hull forms.
Thanks Matt, that is a better way to look at it.
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Re: Classic 21 Express "Sweet Esmaralda"

Post by Bogieman » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:08 pm

Hi Daniel! Welcome to the forum and good luck with your build. It sounds like you have nice plans for your boat once she is finished. I love the name and the fact that you are naming her after your wife, who is supportive of your boat building dreams.

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