Efficient cats

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Re: Efficient cats

Post by SalmonMan » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:27 am

Richard- I’ve got a few questions that you missed so I’ll ask them again.

You mentioned that the Jazz 30 can be taken apart for transporting to the launch site. How is that facilitated? How can the boat be taken apart?

Can you explain the flat bottom hull shape? It would seem that a flat bottom on those hulls would produce pounding. Is there a vee to the hull bottoms that I’m missing?



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Re: Efficient cats

Post by TomTom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:39 am

Richard some more food for thought http://www.argusboats.com/main/flybridge_model.php - though you may have seen this already. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but with a fishing boat I really believe that form follows function. I know that Saqa has a really clear idea of what he wants but the majority of fishing boats in the world are still flybridge models and such a design would be an important part of any plans portfolio

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Post by Woods Designs » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:14 am

Yes I had seen that. Mind you, it isn't anything like my idea of a purpose designed fishing boat. It is more like my Skoota 36 powercat. The first two are being built as liveaboard boats so have an extended cabin offering more interior. The third has a flybridge and a smaller cabin as it will be primarily used for day charter so is similar in concept to the Argus.

BTW I have never seen a flybridge fishing boat in the UK, nor in the PNW, so clearly different fishing grounds need different fishing boats. They are all more akin to what have drawn. So that means it does make sense to fit your own deck on a standard set of hulls

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Re: Efficient cats

Post by Woods Designs » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:28 pm

Several people have asked how the Skoota powercats are built and how they get joined

I hope this video helps answer those queries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RERXh8T4gwI

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Re: Efficient cats

Post by Saqa » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:41 am

Woods Designs wrote: So that means it does make sense to fit your own deck on a standard set of hulls

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If that is a question then my thots on that would be 'not really'. I am ok with fitting out my own layout but!, more then the hulls need to be engineered if taking out paying clients for safety and civil liability reason. By this I mean all structural parts including the cross beams

I think the base point I have been trying to convey all along is that a ideal structural design would be one that can accommodate the the types of optimum layouts that guys like us seek to suit the our different styles and regions

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Re: Efficient cats

Post by Woods Designs » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:53 am

My apologies, I write too fast and try to save words.

I meant that I would design the hulls, cockpit beams etc. Others (like Jacques for example) will design the central cabin, fishing layout etc

But there are some things that won't work however much you want them to, one being the "bowrider" deep forward cockpit, needed if you were to have a level platform from bow to stern

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Re: Efficient cats

Post by jacquesmm » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:37 am

Once we are all clear about the platform, I volunteered to draw a few basic deck layouts in 3D based on what we have discussed here.
As Richard wrote, we must respect the integrity of the structure and some key features.
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Re: Efficient cats

Post by SalmonMan » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:55 am

Woods Designs wrote:But there are some things that won't work however much you want them to, one being the "bowrider" deep forward cockpit, needed if you were to have a level platform from bow to stern

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In my limited experience (two different power cats) drift fishing with a small swell and little wind in the Pacific Ocean was that both boats drifted on beam. That is they drifted sideways and not with the bows into the drift. A sea anchor would have pointed the bows into the swell but can be problematic while fishing. This maybe something to consider if you are drift fishing and want to fish from the bows of a power cat.

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Re: Efficient cats

Post by jacquesmm » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:13 am

I deleted a post that was argumentative.
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Re: Efficient cats

Post by Cracker Larry » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:12 am

Who needs a trailer :?:

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This thread needed a little humor :D
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