Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

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Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by keakayaks » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:13 pm

Hello all,

I am in the planning stages of building a VG 20 + and my first question is: How do I transfer the nested bulkhead full sized drawings from the plans to the plywood? I have spent hours searching the forum and the How To files and can find nothing. Everything is nested so that it is impossible to cut out any of the shapes without destroying the rest of them.

So far the only thing I can think of is to try and find some large, relatively thin paper and trace the lines onto it and then cut.

Any help will be appreciated!



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Re: Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by narfi » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:51 pm

I don't have those plans, is it done differently than the other boats here?
The plans I have from this site all measure points from the edge and then you connect the dots with a flexible batan to draw the shapes.
It seems like that is what he is doing here, http://www.amateurboatbuilding.com/justright/Chap04.htm

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Re: Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by keakayaks » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:06 pm

There are full sized bulkheads patterns included with the VG 20 plans. To save paper, the bulkhead shapes are nested together. I was hoping to use these full sized patterns and use the measurements to check before cutting. It seems like this way would be much faster than than the connect the dot technique.

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Re: Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by Jaysen » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:49 pm

Carbon paper or other pressure transfer medium.

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Post by bigyellowtractor » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:33 am

Signwriters use a "Pounce Wheel" to perforate lines on a drawing then either chalk or charcoal to rub through. That might do the trick.

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Re: Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by Jaysen » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:50 am

The problem with the pounce is that you will have run through after the first line is done. You could use a pounce with two sheets... the template in top, a fresh sheet below, run the pounce then use the bottom to transfer.

I asked about the template once and, I think it was JM who replied, was told that they are just there out of habit and not super useful.

I agree with you though. It seems like it would be easier to get good cuts using the template. I opted for the CNC kit (smaller boat) which kind of made the template ... less useful :)

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Re: Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by keakayaks » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:01 am

Thanks for the replies. I will try the carbon paper idea for the first bulkhead and see how it matches up with the plans.

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Re: Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by keakayaks » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:19 pm

Can anyone tell me if the V berth in the VG 20 will fit two adults under 6 feet? How about the setee berths?

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Re: Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by Bogieman » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:26 am

I was curious if you'd made any further progress? As far as the V birth size, I'm sure Jaques would design it to be at least 6 feet. The V birth on my AD16 plans are 6' and it's a smaller boat.

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Re: Beginning stages of a VG 20+ build.

Post by jacquesmm » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:07 pm

From memory, minimum 6' in the vee berth and about 7 for the bunks.
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