Adelie16 from a land down under

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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by jacquesmm » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:33 am

From the designer:
There is a lot that goes in the design that I can not explain on the plans but let's do it here.

With the keel lifted, there is a little corner of it sticking out in the cockpit, just above the sole.
If a hole is drilled through that tip, a dowel can be inserted to secure the keel up.
The keel is kept up by the tackle PLUS the dowel, very safe on the trailer.
It is also a safe way to secure the keel/centerboard when sailing in really bad rough weather.
You should not be out in very bad weather but if it happens, I like to have something securing the keel in case of roll over.
The boat is designed to right itself up but we do not want the keel to be down in that weather and bang in the top of keel trunk in a capsize. Secure it with a dowel as I explain above.
This is important when modifying my design for a steel keel. The movements of a steel keel will be more brutal. Don't change the design please.
You may think that it will increase stability but that is not true with the keel up, only a tiny little bit with the keel down, maybe 1" lower VCG. In bad weather, the keel will mostly be up anyway.
If you already have the steel keel (whihc is not on the plans), you should install my dowel system.


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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by Salvatore » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:09 pm

Hi Karl,
When launching I drive the trailer all the way down the ramp and into the water so that the boat is almost floating, I then get onto the boat start my motor put it into reverse and my friend pushes the boat off the trailer, my boat trailer has a row of rollers down the middle and the side support rails have a slippery surface on it so that the boat slides down. When retrieving I back the trailer down the ramp so that the first roller touches the water this is not as far down as when I launch, one person steadies the boat and another just winches the boat onto the trailer, (this is why I have extended the keel forward and finished it off in a sweeping curve. See other post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=58853) the center row of rollers and the side rails work together to guide the boat properly onto the trailer. It's to cold to go sailing at the moment as soon as the weather warms up in September i Try to make some video for you.
Picture of trailer with rollers down the middle, rails not installed
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Picture of boat sitting on rollers and side rails
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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by gonandkarl » Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:28 pm

Thanks Salvatore,
It is so good to hear all the detail about putting the boat into the water. George also answered my question and sent me some pictures per email. Unfortunately your pictures one cannot see on photobucket but others in the forum have reported the same problem.
Greetings from Karl
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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by Salvatore » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:44 pm

Hi Karl

Looks like Photo Bucket have become greedy:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/3 ... party_pgs/

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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by Salvatore » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:33 pm

Hi Karl,
I have downloaded a lot of images into the Bateau2 builders Galleries.
http://gallery.bateau2.com/thumbnails.p ... 77&page=19
Me launching the boat on the official first launch day
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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by terrulian » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:59 pm

How long has that been now?
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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by Salvatore » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:16 am

Started May, 2014
Launched November, 2014
Isn't she a thing of beauty, :) 8) Looking forward to putting her in the water again
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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by das boot » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:15 pm

I launch my boat a little different our boat ramps have a finger dock that sticks out from the ramp I stand the mast and rig the sales main and jib the main i use a bungie cord to keep it on the boom and the same with the jib to hold it out of the way hooked to the forward stay. Motor mounted and tested I then install the ruder using a bow and stern rope i tie the bow rope to the front of the tralier winch unhook everything else and back it into the water next to the finger dock then i untie the bow rope from the trailer and grab the stern rope and walk the boat from the trailer while on the dock. this way i do not get a wet foot I reverse the process to get it back on the trailer drive to the parking lot and drop the mast it works for me.

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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by gonandkarl » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:42 am

Hi Salvatore and George,
I love the pictures where you let the boat into the water. Does that mean it floats off the trailer already in knee deep water ? My launching place where I want to let the Adelie into the water for the first time looks similar and it looks like I can use Georges method of walking the boat from a finger dock into deeper water. That is the same place where I always launch my FS13. I wonder if everyone has such a lot of thoughts about the first splash. But I am happy that I do not have any bigger worries.

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I thank You both for the very helpful info about launching and hope that I will manage it the same way as you did a lot of times.
Greetings from Karl
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Re: Adelie16 from a land down under

Post by Salvatore » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:36 am

gonandkarl wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:42 am
Does that mean it floats off the trailer already in knee deep water ?
Yes, it does. By the way that looks like a beautiful location with the mountains in the background, is it an inland lake? tell us more about the location.
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