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Post by bondo » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:06 am

I had always intended to follow up with some notes about my experience with the AD-14.

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I have edited these posts to make corrections and to add thoughts:

The boat is a catboat with a flush-deck cabin.
Waterline is 14'
Hull is 14-6" overall.
Rudder makes it 15'-6" in the water
Extend the bowsprit and she is 20' LOA.
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Re: AD-14

Post by terrulian » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:10 am

I had always intended to "follow up" with some notes about my experience with the AD-14.
Yes, please do. That boat tracks very well upwind with the helm centered, a sign of both good design and good sail trim. :D
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Re: AD-14

Post by bondo » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:44 am

Yes Terrulian.
The boat does have good balance...I was thrilled about that. I was worried about too much weatherhelm.
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Post by terrulian » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:09 am

I was worried about too much weatherhelm (I dont like weatherhelm)
Certainly doesn't look like a problem. You need a little weather helm for a boat to behave properly; you don't really want a neutral helm and certainly not lee helm. Unless the boat is very poorly designed (unlikely in this case!) it can easily be managed by sail trim. You get overpowered, you have more weather helm, you ease the traveler, or reef, balance the sails, problem solved. Every boat is a little different in this regard, some more tender than others, some with full keels others with fins.
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Re: AD-14

Post by bondo » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:31 am

I've made 4 homemade sails and purchased 2 professional ones (similar, but all different from each other in some way.

I had fun making temporary sails from polytarp. None of them failed ( but you could never really count on them)

I rigged with flying outhaul which was critical for the homemade sails but not so much for the professional sails.

I made a couple jibs.

(If I were to do it all over again I would go straight for the Bateau sail and be done with it)

I've had the boat rigged with both a freestanding wooden mast and (now) a stayed aluminum rig.

I designed the wooden freesting mast about a foot taller than per plan. My homemade mainsails evolved from (114 sq ft) "per plan" to (120 sq ft)

They worked well...(to a degree) BUT:

Jacques' stayed aluminum rig (as drawn) is the best.

The boat has only been sailed on a large lake (Lake Washington) but she is destined for Puget Sound, San Juan islands.

I've sailed it perhaps 50 times (more now that I think about it), about 15 times a year...short trips lasting a couple hours. 80% of the time I have sailed solo. Total miles sailed is not much...under 500 miles I would guess.
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Re: AD-14

Post by terrulian » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:11 pm

All you need for the San Juans is a pair of oars...although I'd recommend a fairly robust motor for ebbs and floods. :D
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Re: AD-14

Post by gonandkarl » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:32 pm

Is the Suzuki 2,5 he uses not strong enough ?
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Re: AD-14

Post by bondo » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:08 pm

Hi Karl...thanks Terrulian, I know you are wise about sailing. I appreciate your comments and experience. I have used some or even lots of your advice so thanks.

I want to point out that I am NOT qualified to discuss engineering, design or theory. And there is nothing I can look at to claim that I am a good sailor. I know how to sail.

I've gotten myself in trouble more than a few times.
(Only once in the AD-14, equipment failure...a broken gooseneck part)
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Re: AD-14

Post by bondo » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:39 pm

Hi Karl. I think the small 4stroke Suzuki is the perfect motor however boat "comments or statements" are relative.
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Re: AD-14

Post by terrulian » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:33 pm

[Sorry if this is a repeat. I thought I posted it but don't see it.]
Is the Suzuki 2,5 he uses not strong enough ?
By "robust" I really meant "reliable." The San Juans are famous for being lovely and also for light or non-existent winds, while having currents that need to be reckoned with. I'm sure Bondo can plan around the currents but...the best laid plans...etc. Some of the shores are steep-to and so an anchor may not bail you out if you've lost both the wind and your motor. Not sure about whether 2.5 is enough power as I don't know that boat.
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