Strange question: topside on a truck?

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Re: Strange question: topside on a truck?

Post by rebar » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:05 pm

I wish I could figure out posting google photos here, because photobucket is holding all my pictures for ransom.. I guess I will have to settle for the link to my picture for now as I cant get it to open..

Im going to brush it on because a roller wont fit into and around the gutter but I haven't decided how much reducer to use. Rustoleum says no more than 10% while the people on the rolledon forum say 50% 50%

I swear, this project has gotten the best of me.. After researching every aspect thoroughly, I constantly came up with two or more ways to do everything supposedly right. Way to much info!. lol.
That, and thinking I was ready for paint, but after sanding reviled a million air bubble pin holes.. :help: Right back to waiting another week to cure when my van should have been on the road a month ago.. Now I'm second guessing my primer and paint selection as Iv read single part paints sometimes don't dry completely over epoxy.. :cry: Or that adhesion will be compromised if primer (usually not even used) is applied to cured epoxy instead of wet on wet..

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Re: Strange question: topside on a truck?

Post by terrulian » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:19 pm

I've been hanging with you here. I'm not nearly as worried as you are. On my boat I used S3 epoxy primer over Marinepoxy fillers, then painted with Interlux Brightside which is a one-part paint. No problems. S3 will work as a primer with anything, I believe. The instructions on your primer can will warn you if you can't use one type of paint or another; I'd trust the manufacturer's instructions. In other words, barring some kind of anomaly like a bad can or poor application, I think you're fine with your epoxy primer and one-part paint.
I see you're getting behind schedule but there's always doing a test on a piece of scrap if you're concerned.

Coincidentally, I'm painting just the drip rail on my van similar to the one you posted pictures of. The paint has failed but not through the primer. All I did was sand it and put on regular Rustoleum. The color doesn't quite match but in that position on top of the rail it can't be seen anyway and I'm not taking it to a car show.
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Re: Strange question: topside on a truck?

Post by rebar » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:57 pm

terrulian wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:19 pm
I've been hanging with you here. I'm not nearly as worried as you are.
:lol: :lol:
terrulian wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:19 pm
Coincidentally, I'm painting just the drip rail on my van similar to the one you posted pictures of. The paint has failed but not through the primer. All I did was sand it and put on regular Rustoleum. The color doesn't quite match but in that position on top of the rail it can't be seen anyway and I'm not taking it to a car show.
Keep a eye on the seam sealer in your gutter. My van sat for some time before I bought it and must have collected Florida salt water above the rear doors and rust got under the seam sealer.. I think a ladder rack also contributed to the rust damage. Dont use one part seam sealer.

Did you thin your rustoleum and did it flow/smooth out terrulian? I'm tempted to apply the rustoleum topside with only hardener, because its a work van and I'm behind schedule.

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Re: Strange question: topside on a truck?

Post by terrulian » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:18 pm

There is very little rust on my drip rail, if any. The paint is failed but the primer is still there so I'm not even using any seam sealer.
I'm using the Rustoleum right out of the can. Don't know what hardener you're referring to; it's a one-part paint, the same thing that is shown in the link you posted. I'm just putting it on with a foam brush. But mind you, this is not going to look good, since I don't care as it is not normally visible except to truck drivers in a cab above me. If they have a complaint, they can try to get in touch. :lol:
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Re: Strange question: topside on a truck?

Post by rebar » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:42 pm

Iv read complaints about rustoleum's slow drying times and good results using the valspar hardener I linked to.. There were some cases where the rustoleum took weeks to dry and most of those were rustoleum on epoxy. 8O

Before
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After
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/ftbOrmT2AwjwQ2UB3

I know its crude. But maybe the epoxy might stay on the steel better than bondo glass would have. Time will tell.

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Re: Strange question: topside on a truck?

Post by terrulian » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:07 pm

Good work on the Bondo.
Well, why don't you put two inches of Rustoleum on the bondo, or primer and then rustoleum? If it's not dry after a day, something's weird. You can sand it off if you don't like it, no worries.
Two days ago I painted the same rail on my van with Rustoleum and I wasn't here yesterday but it sure is dry today.
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Re: Strange question: topside on a truck?

Post by rebar » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:19 am

Thanks again..

Tack cloths..
I kept reading about them and finally picked one up at menards box store.. What a sticky mess! How can this sticky crap be good for adhesion? I wiped it again with denatured alcohol and moving on..

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Re: Strange question: topside on a truck?

Post by terrulian » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:39 am

Tack cloths, unlike a plain cloth, pick up bits of dust instead of moving them around. They are standard when painting and varnishing and I used one when painting my drip rail. They are great for picking up sanding dust. Wiping with alcohol is OK too.
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