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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:15 pm
by TRC886
Explorer 19TV wrote: ā†‘
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:59 pm
Should wrap up stringers in the next couple days, before moving forward I need some recommendations on the hull stiffeners that were rotted and removed as pictured
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These pieces 3ā€ wide 3/4 thick when removed were only taped to hull no glue,

In your opinion,

1. Should they be reinstalled, if so would foam work or ply?
2. Should they be bonded to hull with thickened epoxy prior to glassing?

Reason for asking about foam or ply, in the center section they have to conform to the curvature in the hull. Open to suggestions. Will be next step, thanks
I believe that I would cut up some of that extra 1/2" ply, glue it down, tape it to the sides and stringers, glass it in, then foam it. I'd put it back similar to the way the factory did it, but better. I'd also add a few more, spacing them closer together, because the ply is thinner than the original stiffeners.

What is that hole at the bottom of the pic, the green line goes thru it. It appears to be a terrible gouge in the hull, made with a chisel??? How deep is it? It appears to be an inch, and is it in the hull; tabbing; some type of foam; or what?

Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:17 pm
by fallguy1000
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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:18 pm
by Explorer 19TV
TRC, if your talking about the one with the circle, it is a picture of the hull before cleaning it up (I took several for reference) and it was Tabing left over from transom box. All framing was choppered in so it looked scary ripping it all out. There was a lot of white fuzzy glassšŸ˜.

Thanks for the recommendation, I am planning to put them back. I have plenty of 1/2 ply I can rip down, bond to hull, fillet and glass over with 12oz tape.

Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:43 pm
by fallguy1000
Not sure how water can move from the higjer section to the lower...no reason to gutter if u don't have flow

Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:23 pm
by TRC886
Explorer 19TV wrote: ā†‘
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:18 pm
TRC, if your talking about the one with the circle, it is a picture of the hull before cleaning it up (I took several for reference) and it was Tabing left over from transom box.
Yeah, that's the one. I thought it looked too thick for tabbing, but I could see that the bottom of the hole was the hull, and you've got to get rid of anything "bonded" to the original hull lamination :!: Chances are, anything above the original lamination will be a secondary bond, and you can't be sure that it's actually bonded. A good example is my Silverline.

While using a hammer and chisel, I thought the stringer tabbing was bonded to the hull in GREAT shape. After switching to an air chisel, I found that the tabbing was barely stuck to the hull 8O
All framing was choppered in so it looked scary ripping it all out. There was a lot of white fuzzy glassšŸ˜.
I understand how scary it was...especially as thick as it was :help:

Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:11 pm
by Explorer 19TV
Fallguy, Iā€™m lost on what you are saying, I thought your were talking about the gutters for a form to glass over.

Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:20 pm
by fallguy1000
Explorer 19TV wrote: ā†‘
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:11 pm
Fallguy, Iā€™m lost on what you are saying, I thought your were talking about the gutters for a form to glass over.
I am. But only as a path for any water that gets below. If you are confident in a dry bilge and no leaks than foam it up.

Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:26 am
by Explorer 19TV
Ok I got what your saying now, still pondering foam locations. Got some more glassing done on the stringers last night, will probably get them finished this weekend. Other than that a lot of measurements and decisions šŸ˜

Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:53 pm
by fallguy1000
Just realize water goes through a pinhole and if you want to remove it with a bilge pump; you have to make a place for it to flow and collect. My two hulls have no pump in the back, but I expect I might need one someday; so I built a well if I can't keep em dry.

Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:21 pm
by Explorer 19TV
Yes sir, makes perfect sense