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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by Jaysen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:31 pm

Imagine building a tw28... Haven't seen the plans but I have to imagine that a nearly 30' long string isn't something you are moving alone.


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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by fallguy1000 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:41 pm

Strngers look a tad low. All depends how you plan to do the decks.

If you deck atop the cutout you might need the dadoed cleats.
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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by Explorer 19TV » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:18 pm

Jaysen, I can’t even imagine glassing in that. My center stringer is 25” at its tallest and 12’ long. I’m going to glass it before installing and then tape it in, I find it very difficult to wet out that much glass on the table and keep it uniform. I ended up wetting out the outer stringers in place. Don’t like doing it that way but I had to figure out what works by myself.

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The height is dead on, the existing lip of the original sole was left in for a reference and to keep the hulls shape. I will cut it out after I get all the cleats installed. Plan is to dados a 2x to fit over top of stringer and add trans bracing notched into the stringers. The new sole top will be a 1/4” lower than originally.

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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by fallguy1000 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:01 am

gg Travis

What about the console? Got a plan?
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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by Explorer 19TV » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:45 pm

Planning on using the original one.
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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by Jeff » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:44 pm

I agree with you, that is a nice CC!! Jeff

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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by Explorer 19TV » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:04 pm

It is wide and a very comfortable height, nice to get behind underway.

Still kicking around the idea of elevating it 12-14” to have a little more storage, only concern would be getting the center of gravity to high.

Next question is what are the boards suggestions on glassing in the sole? Would like to order materials.

Core thickness:
1/2 marine ply, rounded out deck size 7.6’x12’
Glass?
Tape?
Would like to glass both sides if necessary or at least add stiffeners to the underside?

Stringer spacing:

Hull side to first stringer (widest point) 16”
P&S stringers to center stringer is 24” OC

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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by fallguy1000 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:43 pm

The glass plan for 3/4" ply might be glass on the top only. 1708
The glass plan for the 1/2" ply would be glass both sides. 1708

The weight of the 1708 with epoxy at 100% sat. is 50 oz per square yard or 5.56 oz per sq ft.

You'll want to be careful about leaving edges of plywood exposed. That is where the trouble begins.

But ultimate stiffness comes from dimensional thickness, not glass, so the 3/4" would be preferred. The weight of a 3/4 vs 1/2" plywood is generally about 20 pounds for a 32 square foot sheet. For comparison, the extra glass on the 1/2" ply will add 11.1 pounds of weight, but the floor will be squishier by far.

You need to be the most careful about wider spans. Spans over 20" are not going to be nice to walk on..

Another option will be to add stiffening using the 1/2" plywood wherever you have wide spans. You would basically glass over the entire piece of 1/2" plywood at a width suitable for the area, but 4" would be pretty nice. And those would go say every 16"...

You will know in a hurry if you test a panel.
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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by TRC886 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:04 pm

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It is wide and a very comfortable height, nice to get behind underway.
The sole appears to be only 6" below the gunnels, so it should easily pass Cracker Larry's "bucket test". It appears that it will pass the test anyway. Yes, it is a nice console.
Still kicking around the idea of elevating it 12-14” to have a little more storage, only concern would be getting the center of gravity to high.
Go for it :!: IMHO: You're not raising enough weight, high enough, to make a noticeable difference.

It may be a little late for this, but you sure are losing a LOT of storage under the sole 8O I don't know why it has taken me this long to see it :doh:
Next question is what are the boards suggestions on glassing in the sole? Would like to order materials.

Core thickness:
1/2 marine ply, rounded out deck size 7.6’x12’
Glass?
Tape?
Would like to glass both sides if necessary or at least add stiffeners to the underside?

Stringer spacing:

Hull side to first stringer (widest point) 16”
P&S stringers to center stringer is 24” OC
IMHO: A 16" span is ok. The 24" span is too much without some extra support. I'd add at least one 3" to 4" "bulkhead" on either "side" of the CC...frt and rear. IF it's not too late for a storage compartment, the ends of the compartment(s) will suffice.

You will want to tape the sole to the sides, and glass the entire sole to insure abrasion resistance, even if you get stiffness elsewhere.

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Re: 99 Explorer 19tv restoration question

Post by fallguy1000 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:13 pm

A few nice lockers might be a nice idea. You would be best off using a guttered hatch.
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