Economic cruiser - design input?

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Economic cruiser - design input?

Post by chicagoross » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:52 am

My next boat is an economical cruiser for the family. For some reason I have had a heck of a time deciding on the right design; I've got the boat building shed (tent) ready, sourced out materials and tested them (hard on Guam) and reviewed plans.

I want a comfortable cruiser for my wife and young kids - must have cabin for naps, room for porta-potti, pilot house preferred (rains a lot in Guam). Economy - gas is $3.60 per gallon here and we are trollers, basically, no need for speed, I'd prefer comfort! I've build ply-on-frame (glue and screw) and just finished a D4 dinghy since I hadn't built that way before, so am open for building method. Must be towable (5-10 miles flat) with a toyota truck V-6. Max length is 22', or up to 24' if motor (outboard) in a well.

I've bought plans for HMD18 (too short, would need to be stretched but not "scaled up" completly as it's already 8' wide), Rufus 20' (hybrid stitch and glue/screw and glue, nice looking hull but multichine added complexity), Redwing 21 and 23 (flat bottom a bit of a concern for ocean use). I've also got plans for several lengths of carolina dories and mullet skiffs with cabin layouts.

Anyhow, haven't started building yet - any other suggestions for something I've overlooked?



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Post by steve292 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:00 am

How about a NV23, if you can get away with another 1' length?

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Post by Spokaloo » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:49 am

One way we can dive into this on the forum is looking through older designs by Culler, Atkin, Herreshoff, Sparkman & Stephens, etc, and pester Jacques to repen them.

Also, we can look at some of the designs here on the website and converse on how they will adapt to your needs.

I think looking at Paul Gartside's catalog might be good too, because Jacques could do a quick mod to a less complex version of the hull.

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Post by jeremy » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:00 am

MT24 with an inboard? Might be a tad too big, though.

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Post by Knottybuoyz » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:07 pm

As the kids get bigger you'll outgrow the 20 footer really quick. The MT24 might be a better choice in the long run.
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Post by Daddy » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:30 pm

Or, as the kids get older you wont be able to get them on the boat.....
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Post by jacquesmm » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:53 pm

I am very interested in that type of boat and would love to adapt the concept to our material.
I want to finish the designs I started but after that, some boats in the style of Culler, modernized Atkins etc. could be next.
After designing a few of them, we'll see if there is a market.

In the sail boat category, I would love to produce a few modernized Colin Archer style boats.
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Post by Spokaloo » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:57 pm

Why not the P-21?

Or, as most of you know I like to do, Id reccomend something a little older, and bug Jacques to consider drawing it up.

Jog Along:

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22' long, outboard powered cruiser with a head.

Are you opposed to inboard or IO power?

22' inboard:

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What type of propulsion are you looking for?

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Post by jacquesmm » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:06 pm

They will mostly be inboards diesel, that fits cruising boats much better than outboards.

PS: I'm at an airport waiting to embark and will drop out of the forum for 24 hours within 1 hour.
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Post by Spokaloo » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:10 pm

Did you bring along your catalog of plans to shop for new ideas?

Have a good flight.

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