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Re: New rules coming for Gasoline tanks hoses ect...

Post by Cracker Larry » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:31 pm

Unbelievable :? Well, I wish it was. Our elected officials and their appointees at work, as if they haven't been busy enough screwing things up :? I thought they were all on vacation in Hawaii.
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Post by Spokaloo » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:46 pm

Why waste time on a jobs bill when they can do this...

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Post by gk108 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:21 am

Spokaloo wrote:Why waste time on a jobs bill when they can do this...

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I suppose an enterprising individual could make a few bucks off of counterfeit compliance declarations. :help:

The stuff about the permeation in tanks and hoses looks like an effort to force some manufacturers to bring their product into the 21st century and use the technology that industry leaders are using. The whole tank vent thing isn't a bad idea, but, as that article mentioned, there is a need for more product development to give us a unified solution. Sort of a plug and play gas tank system. The pressure system used in PWCs looks like the most practical one to me. What ever it takes to keep those hydrocarbons where they belong is good with me. From the oil well to the combustion chamber and beyond they are nothing but trouble if you let 'em get loose. 8)
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Post by tech_support » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:03 am

About the only "new" thing at IBEX this year was the various ways to comply wit this new rule.

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Post by wadestep » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:08 am

So, I read this and it is unclear exactally when this stuff will be in full effect. Does anyone know if I title my boat mid-year this year if I have to have the cannisters and funky vents, and stupid stickers, and other stuff? I hate 'idiot stickers'.
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Post by tech_support » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:09 pm

The trap and canister should be pretty easy to install. The spit/vent issue can be solved just by extending down the vent line further down into the tank.

BTW, the fabricator of the tanks I put into my SC already offer the extension on their tanks, its no extra charge. So if my SC were a new boat, and I was the manufacturer, then I would only need to install new vents and carbon traps.

The way I read it, older poly tanks are basically obsolete at this point, only the newer ones will comply. One bit of good news is the new poly tanks will no longer require the compartment to be ventilated, so that exchanges one problem (venting compartments) for another (regulation).
Does anyone know if I title my boat mid-year this year if I have to have the canisters and funky vents, and stupid stickers, and other stuff? I hate 'idiot stickers'.
It is as clear as mud to me. The article says that home built boats must comply, but it doesn't say if that is part of ABYC standard or its is actually the law that home built boats must comply.

To comply should be pretty easy. Install a couple extra parts, then test it yourself. I have suppliers for all those parts, so I will make them available at a discount to our builders if they choose to go that route.

In November there will be an opportunity to give feedback for and possibly change the direction of the EPA :wink:

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Post by wadestep » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:23 pm

Only prob is that I've already bought my aluminum tank about 3 months ago, with just a normal design without all the extra headspace. I'm hoping that this is just another detail that will be no problem in the long run. I'm certainly not goign to cut apart the tank now that it's all pressure-tested and coal-tarred. Maybe getting the fill/vent unit together will help alleviate any concerns, since I believe those vent right back into the tank.
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Post by flyfishingmonk » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:41 am

So in a nutshell, what does this mean? I have two tanks and here is what they look like. The browser was having trouble pulling up the site from the link.

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Post by flyfishingmonk » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:55 am

Since the page wasn't working I did a search on the topic. It appears this doesent apply to outboards. Is this correct?
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