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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by jonnymac » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:15 pm

I like the reset priorities also. Tombolo boat is an interesting boat, looks like someone said "how can I make a downeast style boat look modern."



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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by rick berrey » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:52 pm

I can't see the Tombolo with a traditional mast , any thoughts on a wishbone mast ?

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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by rick berrey » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:53 am

I was looking at the layout of the TT35 wondering how to get the head moved into the bow . Viewing the boat as a two person boat , access would not be much of an issue by moving the aft door to port or starboard , and give room to move the birth to the rear . Moving galley center , dining and head into the bow .

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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by jonnymac » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:17 pm

I think it is going to be challenging getting the head into the bow in a small boat like this. Even if it's only 2 people, which it's likely at some point there are guests or more people all the time in my case. Having enough space to get around the bed is going to be tough given the beam of the boat at that point. If it is in the cabin, I think the rear of the cabin makes more sense as you don't lose so much space to a walkway. I think there are going to be opportunities for tweaking the specific layout for everyone.

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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by jacquesmm » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:52 am

I keep going back and forth between some requirements and the transportable beam is an obstacle. That TT35 is narrow and feels narrow. It's OK for short cruises but not to live aboard for months, at least not by my standards.
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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by rick berrey » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:01 pm

I would need to transport about 6 miles twice a year . So how much wider can we go and still transport as a wide load , and how wide can we go and keep the disp. near 7,000 lb ?

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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by rick berrey » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:15 pm

In Alabama now over 8'6" has to have a Routine Permit which is good to 16' . Over 12' requires one escort , there maybe other width restrictions depending on road width . So wider than 8'6" is a mute point , I will have to permit a 10' wide boat or 12' wide boat . My brothers Jefferson 42 is I think a 14' beam , it will spoil you with room , and his wife , kid,s and grand kid,s all like it better than the Island Packet 32 he sold . There was plenty of room in the Island Packet , but it lacked comfort if 1 or more grandchild were there , and it would have lacked comfort if it were 2' wider and 3' longer . I think if we are going to keep some kind of short haul towing options we will max out with a 12' beam . If we are giving up a long haul towing option we might as well bump up the displacement if we need to . I think 10' wide with big glass seems a lot wider than 12' wide with small port lights , I would think in the 11' width range there could be enough done to an interior to make it a comfortable live aboard for 2 , and maybe 1 grand kid .

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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by jonnymac » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:34 am

that's a very good point. I looked at New York and basically 8'7" to 12'0" is fairly easy with just some additional lights and flags. For me it would be like a twice a year hauling typically so a permit is fine. It looks like more than 12' crosses some expensive and difficult boundaries.

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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by jonnymac » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:38 am

There also lots of people with older cruisers near me that are certainly more than 8'7" and they all get hauled out every year, so must not be that big a deal or no one would do it.

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Re: Great Loop Trawler/Cruiser - Concept

Post by rick berrey » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:26 am

If we aim for a short haul with a 1 1/2 to 2 ton truck then it is only weight that becomes an issue . Looking at the Atkins boats the 11' beam range is not reached until Mr. Simms and Namaki . Namaki is only 10' 9" beam but 36' 11' LOA , and over our 35' . Both have a mast , and Namaki has the round stern like J,s motor sailor .

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