Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by terrulian » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:27 am

I didn't realize this is not a non-stop race, which I find reassuring. It also skips the Horn, although the Cape of Good Hope can also be dangerous.
I couldn't find the class rules with my brief attempts.
Are you aware of Matt Rutherford? Another guy doing something I wouldn't attempt.


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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:30 pm

Class rules (which I find a bit confusing and contradictory to other statements on the site): https://classmini580.com/class-rules/
Association rules: https://classmini580.com/class580/

The class rules seem to rule out a lot of the "acceptable customizations" specifically mentioned on FB and in the FAQ. I'll be querying on those Monday. The areas that "hurt me" are the AGM house, out board requirement (they do allow electric, but I've other plans), and the "commercial windvanes" (explicitly stated home made are allowed in several other places). I'm sure it will all work out.

I'm not aware of Matt. Google search will commence once the wife is irritated with me enough to no longer desire my presence. :)
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I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by terrulian » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:20 pm

OK, I see they do require charts and a sextant, which I approve of of course. Don't know about the signal flags which I noticed somewhere else. I'm not sure who they are intended for. I had references aboard to look them up but we didn't carry a set. Be interesting what scenario they have in mind; I'm guessing SAR.
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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Fuzz » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:54 pm

Jaysen you blow boaters speak a strange language so I have little to add but I will be watching and hoping this goes well for you.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:19 pm

Well Fuzz, I’ll get you some boat porn. I think that makes up for the blow boat crypto...

Don M and I are discussing options for what we can and can not do as home built.

I’ve made a couple of quick build quality decisions.
1. Outside has to be right.
2. Inside will ugly. Race boat, not a show boat. When it stops being a race boat we can clean up the human spaces.
3. Livery will be EMC with Fighting Lady Yellow as the base. There will be high visibility orange in patterns per recommendation.
4. As much as I want to do carbon mast and spars I’m going to go aluminum initially.

I’ll be reaching out to Jeff about pushpits and pulpit. They have to built to spec but Boogie has had trouble getting anyone to build to plan without the hull on prem. One design kind of says “build to spec” so hopefully Jeff can help with that a bit.

Realtors are next on my list of actions. Likely to be less than fun ...
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Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
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My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:41 pm

There’s a bit of “what do we do” with the plans. The designer of the mini 580 has specified ply thicknesses that are not readily available. This means that all boats built in certain regions will be over weight by over 200lbs from the start. Since there are races with max weight limits this will be a big problem. I’m hoping the decision goes to using 9mm in place of 8/10 and 18mm in place of 20. Then a layer of glass where needed for safety. The naval architect is already engaged.

In less frustrating areas the Boss has decreed “you shall stick to the plan” for naming this boat. She shall be called:

Lil Bit More
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Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
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My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Fuzz » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:29 pm

You need to be building something. It will keep you out of trouble.................a little :lol:

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Netpackrat » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:21 pm

As I said in the other thread, it seems overly elaborate if suicide is the goal. But as to charging, have you considered packing along a towed generator? I know it will be a race, but you will almost certainly encounter conditions where a drogue may be a desirable piece of equipment anyway. And the solar probably won't be doing you much good under those conditions.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:44 pm

While not a personal goal, going out shouting “bring it!” to the deity is more my style than anything graceful or peaceful.

Towed or wheeled are plans for “not racing” and will be options on board as well. Race charge will have provide a zero drag option. The core of the system will be agnostic to the source of torque. The boat is just a proving ground.
Visit my official Class Globe 580 build blog at https://jaysenodell.com/globe-580
Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
Class Mini 580 welcome post.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Re: Jaysen's Mini 580 plan

Post by Jaysen » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:42 pm

News from the Mini 580 team: 9mm is adequate for the hull but will require extra layer of glass. There are questions about needing to lam to 9mm to 18 vs buy sheet of 18mm for keel panel (I'm a troublemaker). This is good news as it lowers the cost enough to move from Meranti to Oakume or, considering that this hull will most likely get injured regularly, start a repair fund :) Will need to chat with Jeff on which ply I want. Oakume seems like the smartest as I'll need to counter the weight of extra glass.

Poor Jeff... more PM from me are coming his way!
Visit my official Class Globe 580 build blog at https://jaysenodell.com/globe-580
Currently starting a build of "Lil Bit More". A Class Mini 5.80
Class Mini 580 welcome post.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Jaysen wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm
I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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