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Post by Spokaloo » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:21 pm

He teased it in another thread, so lets explore.

What should be on the JMM design table after he finishes the TW34?

Ill hold my votes until the conversation commences

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Post by Larry B » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:51 pm

I'm not an experienced boat person, but I'd really like to see the one he mentioned in the other thread: (Probably a small inboard in the style of the P21 but 23' inboard) because after I build my FL14 I've been thinking about the P21, DE23 or the FL26, but I think a P23 with inboard would make my mind up :D Especially if the inboard is Diesel :D

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Post by chicagoross » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:25 pm

20-21' displacement cruiser; also a semi-displacement cruiser with cabin, otherwise simlar to Nina. All outboard powered. :D

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Post by jbo_c » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:03 pm

I'll go with Chi' only smaller.

I'd like a motor micro cruiser. I know, I'm one of one or two, so it won't happen, but that's what I'd like. There are lots of micro sailers, but no micro motors that I can find.

Planing or semi-planing, maybe even displacement OK.

I'm going to end up making a convertible out of a small boat.

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Post by chicagoross » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:16 am

smaller than HMD18, jbo? like Devlin's Dipper?

Can't think of much else that is smaller than 18 with a cabin that still looks like a boat...

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Post by jbo_c » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:31 am

I was thinking something like the AD14 or AD16. There are plenty of sailers in this size with a cuddy. I'd love to have one for micro-cruising, but no interest in sailing.

I bet Jacques could make a motor version that had style.

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Post by steve292 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:14 am

I'm for the 22' powercat, idealy powered by two smallish (30hp ish) outboards - http://www.cheetahmarine.co.uk/ do a nice one.
Or the 21-23' inboard powered P21 type workboat/cruiser- diesel powered preferrably.

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Post by dborecky » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:26 am

25-28 ft Power Cat. The smaller cats are good but not a versatile and not as smooth riding as the larger cats. The largest market share for cats sold are in the 25-28ft range in the US. This is with the top cat builders such as World Cat, Glacier Bay and a few others. Again, this is US not overseas. The smaller cats do sell and in large numbers as well but I see more of the 25 and 27 ft size Cats on the water then the smaller ones.

I would love to see what Jacques comes up with as he has no boats like this on his site. There are three options for hull design, displacement, semi displacement, and planning. One of the latter two would be my option as I need to make far runs to the fishing grounds.

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Post by Berend » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:01 am

I would go for a V14 or V15. I really like the lines of the V12 and I've read several times questions about a larger V12.
I certainly will buy the plans for a V14 / V15 :D !
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Post by jacquesmm » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:00 am

I'm reading . . .
For a small power cruiser, I could go smaller than the HM19 but not much. I know that if I draw that one, I will get all kind of questions about headroom and how to change it and make it bigger. I am not too enthusiast but keep posting, maybe I did not understand what you ask for.

About the V14 or 15, I have a problem. Once you get that large, if it is wide enough for power and sail it will not row well anymore.
That looks like a dead end unless you cans how me some examples.

My preferences are the motorsailer, an outboard powered cat and, not mentioned earlier, an Atkins style shallow draft inboard like a larger rescue Minor.
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