22ft MacGregor rebuild

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22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by vantuinen1 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:00 pm

Alright, ive been watching all of your guys project for a while now and have never had anything to contribute till now. Ive picked up a 22 MacGregor for cheap. I am not a sailor, in fact I have never evan set foot on a sailboat until now. My plans for the boat (besides learning to sail on it) is to fix some hull damage, fair and paint the boat, and replace some of the rigging. The boat is in semi ok shape and trailer is worse.
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Someones idea of a good fix on the rudder 8O

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Trailer needs a full rebuil. Anyone know what the bolts on the rearmost crossbar are for?

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I cant figure what they might be for. :doh:

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This is probably the area with the most damage. Bolt on a dock???

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Almost looks like someone was living in it with as much junk was stored in it.

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This is after I already pulled most of the junk out.

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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by vantuinen1 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:26 pm

The damage on the transom (was told that it was from boat bouncing in a storm at the dock) is scratches thru the gelcoat barely nicking the glass. I alrady sanded down to good glass.

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This is the scratches on transom.

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After sanding

Can i fill with quickfair, or should I use thickened epoxy??

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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by Cracker Larry » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:41 pm

Quick Fair would be fine for that. The boat looks to be in pretty good shape. The bolts on the rear cross member probably held on center marker lights. Trailers over a certain size are required to have them.

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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by vantuinen1 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:51 pm

Thanks Larry. Your builds have been an inspiration for me.

The crossmember bolts are 4x 1/2". Might be overkill for a marker light.

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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by Cracker Larry » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:55 pm

Maybe there was a center roller there at one time. There ain't no telling, cut 'em off. You won't be using them anyway :D Thanks for the comments.
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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by vantuinen1 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:03 pm

Thanks Larry. I thought as much.

I have a couple spots around tight bends where the glass didnt fill all the way to the gelcoat (voids), after sanding these down can I also fill with quickfair? These i had to grind down about an 1/8" into the glass.

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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by Cracker Larry » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:17 pm

You'll need to show us a picture of those, but no, if you get into the glass you probably need to use a structural filler. If it's large you may need to lay some glass cloth in there. The glass is structural, never replace it with fairing compound. Post some pics of all the problem areas.
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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by vantuinen1 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:21 pm

OK, her are pictures of what ive got goin' on. The voids have been ground down with 80 grit sander.

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You can see its about an 1/8" or so deep.

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Should i use thickened epoxy? Or should I mix in some glass strand?

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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by tech_support » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:28 pm

voids are common. If what you are filling is more than 1/4" then quickfair may dent over time. For deep filling: Fill and shape with with a putty (can be epoxy with wood flour or silica, or anything else that is not soft) then you can fair it

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Re: 22ft MacGregor rebuild

Post by vantuinen1 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:34 pm

Is 80 grit enough grip for the epoxy?

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